99 sflush draw against very very loose villain

[boondockst]

The Villain was quick to bet if checked to, and called most bets on the flop/turn/quite a few rivers with king high. He wasn't prone to reraise without an extremely strong hand. I chose to raise the turn to go for a free showdown on most rivers.

To toybux, you are entirely correct in that considering his holding on the turn, we were exactly 50/50 in this hand. With the dead money in the pot and the possibility of making a straight/straight flush, I see no problem continuing, even if it could get very dicey.

SiteX No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

SB ($99.00)
BB ($20.00)
UTG ($22.60)
MP ($139.00)
CO ($106.13)
Hero ($110.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($3.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $1</font>, Hero calls $1, BB folds.

Turn: ($5.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, MP calls $8.

River: ($37.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero ????


The Villain did NOT ever check-raise. I.e., he check-called an ace high board with JJ and then led $19 into a $10 pot when he hit a very transparent one-card straight on the river.

He also isnt necessarily afraid of one card flushes as he called a river bluff by me on a 3s 4s 8x Ts Js board with Jd 5d.

Any value in betting? It's only the 4th nut flush but against a villain who doesn't check-raise, yet would probably lead with a queen-high flush. I honestly think the only hand that beats me that he checks here is one with the J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
He'd also pay me off with a lower one, and most two pair/set combinations.

Given that he slowed down a lot with the heart coming out, and that you say he never check raises, my read on the river is that he was playing something other than a heart draw (maybe a small heart--maybe 66 again) like a pair, two pair, or maybe even a set. I'd value bet the river for about $10-20 depending on your feel for the situation. I think you're probably best here, because I don't see a maniac slowing down with a 1st 2nd or 3rd nut flush on the river after being agressive up to this point.

I'm eager to see how this turned out.

Edit: I forgot to include this in my original post, but why didn't you raise 99 preflop? I'm not sure if any information gained from a PF raise would help with this villian, but I'd be interested in your reasons for simply calling at a 6 handed table.

[Finite_Risk]

Maybe this is weak, but I don't like betting situations like this where I puke if he comes over the top big - even if he sucks.

I'd rather raise the flop cuz if he comes over the top I'm happier to get the money in then with the OESFD on the flop and 2 cards left.

Even on the flop I feel better about the OESFD if I held 2 of the suiteds so some deek doesn't cut half my outs by calling with the lone K

Maybe the post that said to call this down was more correct.