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Old 12-16-2005, 12:18 PM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default Re: I wana become a 6-max NL winner

In general, nl is about trapping while limit is about value betting. You can do things like slowplay until the river with a flopped set if you think that your opponent will pay you off. That's a big nono in limit.

Both of those Harrington books are awesome, and should probably be worn out for NL to the same extent that SSH is worn out for limit ring.

I think the main thing that's relevant in NL that doesn't matter in limit is the stack size of the opposition. Slowplaying is worthless if the villain's got no stack to pay off with. Bluffing is also useless if villain has already committed 2/3 of his stack pf. Having a big stack matters in NL. Going up against a small stack can swing a decision from raise to fold.

I'd read the NL forums here, and check out Negranu's site as well.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: I wana become a 6-max NL winner

If you've read the harrington books, you should know that your VPIP is relative to your style.

The tight style that Harrington uses would lead to a much lower vpip than in limit games because hands with mainly top pair value [like KQo] become much more dangerous. TPTK is not worth calling a big raise with.

The looser style sees a lot of cheap flops, and tries to flop monsters or bluff out weakies when it misses. It requires the ability to read hands and make raises and laydowns postflop that bear little relationship to the cards. This style would naturally lead to a much higher vpip, as you're trying to get in cheap in late position vs a couple of worthy stacks. The cards matter less here.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: I wana become a 6-max NL winner

Thanks for the advice I really apprecaite it. Few more thoughts...

In 6-max limit I never open limp, and I never cold call raises. Seems like there are alot more opportunities to do that in 6-max NL games.. ie cold call a preflop 3x BB raise with a low PP and hope to hit a set, or open limp with suited connectors. That trapping vs value betting thing I gota get used to. Folding TP/OP to a big raise I have yet to master.

My 6-max style has always been very TAG.. that loose stuff ain't for me. Hopefully that still translates into a winning forumla in 6-max NL.

Thanks again... BB
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: I wana become a 6-max NL winner

I'm not a NL Guru (hell I'm not a poker guru), but I think that most good NL players will only cc if they have a good read on a villain's range and can make the appropriate laydown on the flop. They also probably rely on being able to take free cards.

Openlimping is probably safer in NL than it is in limit, since a LRR often ends with the words "all in". Players may be more wary of this, and less inclined to raise for value with a top pair type pf hand like a couple of broadways. Small pairs probably don't raise vs openlimpers as much either, since they'd rather hit a set and try to get all in.

These type of questions are definately better answered in the NL forums though.
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