Stars 10re/ Push to isolate button + dead money

Well, the reason being is that 2000/4000 is the 13th stage, and from my guess from the structure is that its starting to get deep, and into the money. With that thought process in mind, i'd be willing to guess that this is where the tournament life part starts playing a roll. If i had Aces or kings, i'd definately isolate, just because of the fact that i don't want anyone else to steal a fat pot from me, that deep into a tournament. To me, the smooth call is just an insurance scheme to be able to fold and keep playing. But then i again, i'm probably crazy.

You're right, at this stage the "tournament life" plays a role - by that I assume you mean shallow stacks and a chance to make real money. That's exactly why you smooth call the big pair and pray you get the big blind to play along. You're unlikely to get another chance to get this much of an advantage for this many chips again. The only "insurance" you get from a smooth call w/ the intent to fold to a push is a guaranteed meager payday ;-(

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You're right, at this stage the "tournament life" plays a role - by that I assume you mean shallow stacks and a chance to make real money. That's exactly why you smooth call the big pair and pray you get the big blind to play along. You're unlikely to get another chance to get this much of an advantage for this many chips again. The only "insurance" you get from a smooth call w/ the intent to fold to a push is a guaranteed meager payday ;-(

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I thought that was his mistake. My gut told me to push this.
Very boarderline, I know... but he folded TT and was mad as hell when he saw my hand [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Glad it worked out for you - there's nothing more satisfying than out-donking someone ;-) I know, I did that last night in a similar situation as yours when I pushed my TT into what I suspected was a trap but did anyway in the "hopes" that he had a big A and not a big pair ("hope" is synonymous w/ "leak"). He turned over KK but I flopped quads - and to quote Matusow: "I'm a superstar".

[Rickyroodido]

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Glad it worked out for you - there's nothing more satisfying than out-donking someone ;-) I know, I did that last night in a similar situation as yours when I pushed my TT into what I suspected was a trap but did anyway in the "hopes" that he had a big A and not a big pair ("hope" is synonymous w/ "leak"). He turned over KK but I flopped quads - and to quote Matusow: "I'm a superstar".

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I know im trying to induce a huge laydown, but sometimes you kind of sence the scaredness and I think bloodthirst is more inportent then.
However afterwards I was kind of chocked that he had TT and almost regreted the play. How t f can you manage to fold TT?!
No logic here, so your right.