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Old 12-15-2005, 09:39 PM
DoomSlice DoomSlice is offline
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Default Re: Watch Waxie Move Up

If you want to end the hand preflop you need to raise it more than $2.75 more.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:44 PM
Andrew Fletcher Andrew Fletcher is offline
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Actually, I want to end it by folding if he re-raises and I want him to just call if he has a hand < AA-KK. If an A or K falls on the flop, I am usually ahead. I think villian grossley misplayed his hand and wouldn't have had the opporunity if I hadn't offered a lot of chances for him to make mistakes.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:48 PM
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Don't 3 bet AK unless guy is a LAG/maniac, and if you do make a real raise PF. Not getting away from that hand on the flop.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:50 PM
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I want to end it by folding if he re-raises and I want him to just call if he has a hand < AA-KK

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Some players will smooth call your 3bet. Why not end it when you miss on the flop, instead of folding before you get a cheap chance to outflop JJ-KK and any other random [censored] he has?

He called a PSB, he isn't scared of your ace. I think he either stacked you with his FH or you split with trip aces K kicker.

Also, by 3betting preflop, you are probably committing your stack if you hit with TPTK. Not necessarily a good thing.

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Why? I want to end the hand right there. have you ever played AK OOP? It sucks when the flop looks like that.

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You aren't just playing it OOP, you're building a pot OOP! Now you got your stack in without any helpful information at all.
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Old 12-15-2005, 09:57 PM
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter

Hero ($55.75)
UTG+1 ($29.40)
MP1 ($3.60)
MP2 ($43.05)
MP3 ($17.30)
CO ($25)
Button ($29.30)
SB ($26.55)
BB ($37.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $2.25</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($5.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, MP3 calls $5.

Turn: ($17.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9.05</font>, MP3 calls $9.05 (All-In).

River: ($35.20) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $35.20

They are 2-betting at 25NL with A9.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Watch Waxie Move Up

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter

Hero ($55.75)
UTG+1 ($29.40)
MP1 ($3.60)
MP2 ($43.05)
MP3 ($17.30)
CO ($25)
Button ($29.30)
SB ($26.55)
BB ($37.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $2.25</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($5.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, MP3 calls $5.

Turn: ($17.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9.05</font>, MP3 calls $9.05 (All-In).

River: ($35.20) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $35.20

They are 2-betting at 25NL with A9.

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Your raise UTG with AJo is silly. Fold that hand. Then you check raise the flop. Why, to fold out worse hands, but guarantee getting stacked by a set? Just lead out for 3/4 of the pot.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:20 AM
Andrew Fletcher Andrew Fletcher is offline
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You're silly!

Do you believe in monsters under the bed? If you're playing AJ UTG that weakly, then you are missing a lot of value in 25NL.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:22 AM
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You're silly!

Do you believe in monsters under the bed? If you're playing AJ UTG that weakly, then you are missing a lot of value in 25NL.

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No, he's really not. And try not to criticize people who are trying to help your play too much.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:49 AM
Isura Isura is offline
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You're silly!

Do you believe in monsters under the bed? If you're playing AJ UTG that weakly, then you are missing a lot of value in 25NL.

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What data do you have to back this up? Give me pokertracker positional statistics for yourself, comparing the EV of folding versus raising AJ in early position. Better yet, do it for 100 players with more than 10k hands in your database.

Please stop posting such incorrect and baseless advice like it is a fundamental truth. You are making a fool of yourself by doing this.
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Old 12-16-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Watch Waxie Move Up

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Your raise UTG with AJo is silly. Fold that hand. Then you check raise the flop. Why, to fold out worse hands, but guarantee getting stacked by a set? Just lead out for 3/4 of the pot.

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do you always fold AJo UTG??
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