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12-14-2005, 03:48 PM
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Re: LA Poker Room advice
being new to the board make me less credible?
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12-14-2005, 04:46 PM
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being new to the board make me less credible? [/ QUOTE ] Yes because you have apparently read none of the extensive discussion of why these games are so beatable, how "small stakes holdem" established how to very easily beat these games, and you don't undersand why a pro might prefer making 1.5BB an hour at 20-40 to making 4BB an hour at 3-6. The only issue with making money at low limits is the rake, and even then you can make money, you're just paying too much of it to the house. Oh, and here is how to read your opponents at low limits. 95% of the time they call they have a crappy hand and are hoping you are bluffing or they'll hit miracle runner runner by the river. The other 5% of the time they are slow playing their "monster", top pair decent kicker or bottom two pair.
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12-14-2005, 04:56 PM
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Oh, and here is how to read your opponents at low limits. 95% of the time they call they have a crappy hand and are hoping you are bluffing or they'll hit miracle runner runner by the river. The other 5% of the time they are slow playing their "monster", top pair decent kicker or bottom two pair. [/ QUOTE ] NH sir. Basically, low limits in Los Angeles are beat by creating volume. You are not looking for soft games. You are looking for games with 7-8 loose players(ie most weekend low limit games at Commerce), who will call with hands that have zero or next to zero chance to win. In that manner, you may only have the 2nd or 3rd best hand to start, but even those will show a profit because so many others are playing so loose. And in the situations where you do have the best hand, you can raise freely, there by creating huge volume. You do not need to put opponents on hands as often since the pots will be so huge that you *have* to call with a very wide range of holdings. The reasons pros eschew these games is that #1.) The amount you win....even if you make 1.5-2 BB per hour, is not that much, #2.) The variance is huge.
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12-14-2005, 05:28 PM
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you don't undersand why a pro might prefer making 1.5BB an hour at 20-40 to making 4BB an hour at 3-6. The only issue with making money at low limits is the rake, and even then you can make money, you're just paying too much of it to the house. [/ QUOTE ] Thank you for being the first person to raise an intelligent argument on this thread. It's amazing that so many refrain from discussion on a "discussion board."
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12-15-2005, 11:50 PM
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Re: LA Poker Room advice
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[ QUOTE ] you don't undersand why a pro might prefer making 1.5BB an hour at 20-40 to making 4BB an hour at 3-6. The only issue with making money at low limits is the rake, and even then you can make money, you're just paying too much of it to the house. [/ QUOTE ] Thank you for being the first person to raise an intelligent argument on this thread. It's amazing that so many refrain from discussion on a "discussion board." [/ QUOTE ] DeeMo, Welcome to the boards. I think if you spend some time here you'll find that some of the smartest minds in poker are associated w/ the 2+2 publishing company. Most of the flaming you've received so far seems to be due to a common understanding that loose games are ALWAYS beatable for more bets per hour than those with tighter, more skilled players. It's just mathmatics. Ed Miller's book, Small Stakes Hold'em is considered by most to be the definitive work on these games. You should seriously pick up a copy and visit the microlimits forum for great discussion of the game. You will find that the members here practice a tough love method - no offense should be taken. We are all here to learn and posting incorrect opinions is the best way to do that. Best of luck, Salty
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