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SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs
From deep stack.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com MP3 (t16100) CO (t51012) Button (t7415) SB (t11520) Hero (t35792) UTG (t42109) UTG+1 (t77086) MP1 (t41728) MP2 (t29855) Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t11470</font>, Hero ??? |
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Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs
How willing are you to gamble for 1/3 your stack? I'd guess he either got an over on you or maybe a small PP. Either way you're at best a coin flip and probably need to hit.
I'd let it go. |
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Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs
He pushed for 20x BB and you have QJs.
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Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs
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He pushed for 20x BB and you have QJs. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs
uh... how is that even a question? You would have to construct an absolutely ridiculous range for this to be a good call.
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Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs
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He pushed for 20x BB and you have QJs. [/ QUOTE ] So, QJs is about 47% against Ax or Kx and about even against 22-TT. It is very unlikely villain has JJ-AA. So all you are worried about is AJ, AQ, AK, KQ, and KJ. You are about a 3-2 dog against AK and 2-1 against the others. Plus villain probably would make a smaller raise with hands that strong. You are probably close to even against a pp, Ax, or Kx. You are putting in 47% with pot odds, so the call is pretty close in chip EV. |
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Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs
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uh... how is that even a question? You would have to construct an absolutely ridiculous range for this to be a good call. [/ QUOTE ] beecause imo he's not likely to do this with AA-JJ, and those are a huge part of the -ev of the range. |
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Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs
umm... what IS he likely to do this with? Nothing. In my experience, overbet pushes are usually AK or a small pocket pair that is too scared to play postflop. That's not to say his range isn't pretty wide, but I think you have to weight those hands more than others. I also don't think you can discount JJ+, as I have seen people overbet with everyone one of those hands as well. I don't think this is anywhere near close.
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Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs
Not worth it. Next hand.
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Re: SB pushes for 19xBB and you have QJs
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umm... what IS he likely to do this with? Nothing. In my experience, overbet pushes are usually AK or a small pocket pair that is too scared to play postflop. That's not to say his range isn't pretty wide, but I think you have to weight those hands more than others. I also don't think you can discount JJ+, as I have seen people overbet with everyone one of those hands as well. I don't think this is anywhere near close. [/ QUOTE ] An overbet push from mid to late position could be a fairly big hand. From the SB, it is a fairly standard play with an ace, small pp, broadway cards, suited connector etc. It is not that bad a play to push here, since you have folding equity, are up aginst one random hand, and are OOP postflop. |
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