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Old 12-12-2005, 06:15 PM
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dont i already get like $2 an hour back already at the borg?
doesnt the taj pay even more than $2?

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Please elaborate.
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:18 PM
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dont i already get like $2 an hour back already at the borg?
doesnt the taj pay even more than $2?

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Please elaborate.

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oh wait, you guys dont count comp dollars as money?
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:20 PM
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congratulations, you just invented being a prop player.
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:02 PM
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No he didn't. Being a prop player involves playing when the house tells you to play at the game the house tells you to play. The OP can play whenever he wants.
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Old 12-12-2005, 09:33 PM
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No he didn't. Being a prop player involves playing when the house tells you to play at the game the house tells you to play. The OP can play whenever he wants.

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Yeah, I don't view it as anything but rakeback. Remember, this isn't a huge casino with lots of tables. Its a small typical local California cardroom that only spreads small stakes. If there were bigger games where rake doesn't have such a dramatic affect on your total nut, I'd probably scrape together the BR for 6/12 or 8/16.

So from his perspective, if he is indeed losing players to online offerings, which obviously is not the case with large Vegas casinos, but is indeed the case with me and several others who play there, then it is a profitable decision.

I can personally make or break a table. If it is 6 handed and I decide to get up and go home to play online, the table is in danger of breaking and there goes his $100 an hour for that table. Granted, this should only be extended to loyal customers who play I'd say 70+ hours a month and not a sign on the door saying, "Sign Up For Rakeback Today!" That wouldn't make sense I don't think. Or would it? Vegas casinos offer comps, sure, but is it in the form of cash or just "Bonus Bucks" you can use to pay for stuff at the casino. I think there is a difference.

Anyway, we'll see how it goes.

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Old 12-12-2005, 06:23 PM
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dont i already get like $2 an hour back already at the borg?
doesnt the taj pay even more than $2?

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Please elaborate.

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oh wait, you guys dont count comp dollars as money?

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Thanks for the elaboration. It actually isn't that much at most places.

At Wynn for example, I get $1.50 an hour if playing in the higher stakes games and $1 and hour for lower. When I use a comp and order a chicken ceaser salad or something, it is proper to tip the runner money for getting you the food so you are also paying for a little on your comps. Also, each comp they give is a set amount, so even if you spend less than $15 a Zoozoo for example, they take $15 dollars off.

Not like any of that matters anyway because the red card computer system at Wynn is completely effed up anyway. I think I have -$100 or something.
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:27 PM
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i see
borg is $2 an hour for 10-20 and up.
im not sure what taj is, but i remember hearing something like $3 or even $4 for some of the higher games.
borg only takes what you spend, and from what i understand, if you get a $10 comp at taj and only spend $5, $5 goes back onto your account (but i cant verify this, perhaps somebody else can)
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:05 AM
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Hey Larry David and mostsmooth----

You have the best little picture thing below your names.

Just wanted to give you some props
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:15 PM
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Hey Larry David and mostsmooth----

You have the best little picture thing below your names.

Just wanted to give you some props

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i deserve no credit, somebody else posted a big list of avatars, this was one of them. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:23 PM
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Hey Larry David and mostsmooth----

You have the best little picture thing below your names.

Just wanted to give you some props

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i deserve no credit, somebody else posted a big list of avatars, this was one of them. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Same here.
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