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Old 12-12-2005, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: Has the Iraq War hurt our ability to deal with this whacko PM in Iran?

I see it like this. Before Iran becomes a threat to this country, it will be a threat to Israel. I think we can let Israel deal with it if it gets much worse, as it would clearly be in their best interests to do so.

I have a feeling that we would be "safer" with a nuclear Iran than we would be after rebuilding Iran's government or any kind of military strike to prevent nuclear arming.
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Old 12-12-2005, 09:51 AM
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I see it like this. Before Iran becomes a threat to this country, it will be a threat to Israel. I think we can let Israel deal with it if it gets much worse, as it would clearly be in their best interests to do so.


[/ QUOTE ] this is an absolutley terrible idea. The only sure fire way to get the rest of the middle east to sympathise with iran is to "let israel deal with them" good lord man, this is ridiculous. you should try to get a job in Bush's cabinet. as it is now, much of the midle east is skepticle of iran because of the theocratic nature of their government. encouraging a situation where israel "deals with " a muslim country would set the already f'd region back decades. In response to the OP, yes clearly our international credibility is at an all time low, or atleast close to it, and this administration in particular would have a hell of a time russeling up legitimate supporty for much of anything. The scary thing about iran is this ahmenijad charecter is the only iranian leader not named ayyatollah.
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Old 12-12-2005, 05:23 PM
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..."let israel deal with them" good lord man, this is ridiculous... as it is now, much of the midle east is skepticle of iran because of the theocratic nature of their government. encouraging a situation where israel "deals with" a muslim country would set the already f'd region back decades... The scary thing about iran is this ahmenijad charecter is the only iranian leader not named ayyatollah.

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Do you mean Israel shouldn't be allowed to defend itself? A preemptive strike, in millions of minds, would be/is considered defensive. It was tough enough keeping them on the ranch in Gulf 1. I wonder if they'll wait until crap starts falling from the sky again.

Concern by "much of the middle east," won't do anything about this or any other problem. When the "much" starts doing something positive, the region will stop being so "f'd" up.

Personally, I worry more when the leader delivering these speeches is an ayatollah.
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:30 PM
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>>The only sure fire way to get the rest of the middle east to sympathise with iran is to "let israel deal with them" good lord man, this is ridiculous.<<

Well, while we have good relations with a few Middle Eastern governments, the vast majority of the population in that region hates America with a vengeance.

Nothing individual Americans or the American government can do will possibly change that - at least not for many generations.

The upside of this is that if we support/allow Israel to wipe out Iran's nuclear capabilities, well, it won't hurt our 'image' at all. Nothing we do will make the people of the middle east hate us more.

We want Iranian nukes wiped out as much as Israel does. Time to let Israel pay us back a little for the billions in aid we pump in there every year.

Time to sic our dog on em.
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Old 12-12-2005, 08:55 PM
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We want Iranian nukes wiped out as much as Israel does.

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I'm fairly confident the above is false. Israel wants Iran's nukes wiped out much more than we do. Our very survival as a country is not riding on whether Iran develops a nuke or two. Israel's is.

I think that Israel should say that if any nuke goes off even close to Israel, they will nuke Mecca. Sure it'd piss off a bunch of muslims, but would they be willing to risk their holy site on it?
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:57 PM
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We want Iranian nukes wiped out as much as Israel does.

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I'm fairly confident the above is false. Israel wants Iran's nukes wiped out much more than we do. Our very survival as a country is not riding on whether Iran develops a nuke or two. Israel's is.

I think that Israel should say that if any nuke goes off even close to Israel, they will nuke Mecca. Sure it'd piss off a bunch of muslims, but would they be willing to risk their holy site on it?

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Nukes in the middle east are all smoke and mirrors. There is little chance that any nation would ever use nukes because of the fear of retaliation. Oh wait, the Isralis are the only ones with nukes so they can do whateve rthe [censored] they want. The region would stabilze more if the balance of power was evened out.
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