Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play

[bigt439]

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He minraised. Because SB is in the way, it is much more likely he wanted to be able to fold to SB than just limpin g because he wants action. Pretty much regardless, I think your hand is too strong and your chip position too weak to let this go. Push.


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Different story if there is parity among the stacks. You're going to have to do something at some point. You're FE is dwindling and the blinds moving around fast. You still have FE over the button and he could be doing this with a lot. Time is a luxury you don't have.

[EasilyFound]

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You still have FE over the button and he could be doing this with a lot

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If hero pushes, isn't button getting 5-2 to call another t620 or so? Isn't that an automatic call for the button?

[Paul Thomson]

If one of the other stacks were a little smaller (less than 1200), I'd probably fold and try and steal their blind. But if you fold this hand and the SB, then a push will not significantly effect any of the other stacks. So given the situation, I'd use a stop n go, since pushing gives the button nearly 2-1 odds to call.

Do you guys use the stop and go a lot here? I've seen a lot of calls by bigstacks with just overcards to flop lately against shorty's stop and gos. Anyone else noticed this stop-and-go "defense" being used? Anyone else make calls like that? Anyway, I hardly ever stop-and-go. Leak?

[Matt R.]

I always forget to use it myself. But I really don't see the point in *not* using it in this instance. You're getting called preflop if you push. You might NOT get called if you simply call preflop and then push the flop. I really don't see any advantage here by pushing preflop... unless the guy is not good and will fold getting ridiculous pot odds. A9o is too good to fold to a button min-raise given the stack sizes, but you really don't want to get called with A9o. I have to think the stop 'n go gives you more fold equity than a pre-flop push. Even if the increase in FE is only a small amount, a small amount is plenty to make it the better play.

[pergesu]

I'm not sure how this thread has gone on three pages.

This should be a very obvious stop n go.
1. Your hand is too good to fold preflop
2. You want to win this pot without showing down
3. Button will call nearly 100% of the time preflop

Somebody said that seeing the flop doesn't add much FE, but it adds enough to make this the right play imo. Button is NOT folding his hand preflop, but if he misses he will often make the mistake of folding to an all-in.

I'm not sure what curtains did here, because I just read the first page and couldn't take it anymore. I'd be incredibly surprised to find he did anything other than SNG here.

[curtains]

I stopped and go'ed, I don't think its really that clear as you say...meaning the difference between the two plays is extremely minor.

[AA suited]

why is this called a Curtains hand if IC5 is posting it? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[sofere]

IMO A9 is too strong to fold in this situation. Your ahead of villains range and the next lowest stack is at 2618. If you don't make your stand here you'll have no fold equity in the future.

I don't like stop and go with any two here cause it really doesn't add all that much fold equity.

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

Hero should fold, IMO. I only play $11-$33, but when someone enters pot, especially with a raise, they rarely lay the hand down, and A9 is not strong enough to play here. Let's see what everyone else thinks...