Iran

[BluffTHIS!]

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There is a clear case for the irrationality of the North Korean government. THE SAME CANNOT BE SAID FOR IRAN.

Since Iran is not a clearly irrational actor then they have every right to pursue a nuclear power system and a nuclear arsenal.

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These are the last words I am wasting on you.

Maybe you aren't trolling and just are incapable of logical thought processes evidenced by the following:

1. Iran threatens to "wipe Israel off the map" and also supports terrorism against them.

2. Yet they aren't an irrational actor.

GET A GRIP!

[theweatherman]

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There is a clear case for the irrationality of the North Korean government. THE SAME CANNOT BE SAID FOR IRAN.

Since Iran is not a clearly irrational actor then they have every right to pursue a nuclear power system and a nuclear arsenal.

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These are the last words I am wasting on you.

Maybe you aren't trolling and just are incapable of logical thought processes evidenced by the following:

1. Iran threatens to "wipe Israel off the map" and also supports terrorism against them.

2. Yet they aren't an irrational actor.

GET A GRIP!

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It has been shown that supporting terrorism DOES NOT MAKE A NATION IRRATIONAL. Unless you are willin g to admit that the US is an irrational actor.

Calling for the destruction of a nation and following through are two different things. China still claims taiwan as there own and makes threats but as of yet does nothing about it. They are on the UN Security concil. Obviously regarded as rational.

theweatherman,

I am having trouble following your line in comparing the US to Iran in the following SATish sense:

1) Sending/Funding/Organizing suicide bombers to kill as many innocent people as possible is to Iranian terrorism - as - ________________ to kill as many innocent people as possible is to American terrorism.

Also, in what way would you compare the 38 or 39 country coalition's initiative to remove Saddam Hussein's unpleasant and threatening dictatorship and install a democratically elected coalition government - to - Iran's intiative to "wipe Israel off the map"?

[theweatherman]

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theweatherman,

I am having trouble following your line in comparing the US to Iran in the following SATish sense:

1) Sending/Funding/Organizing suicide bombers to kill as many innocent people as possible is to Iranian terrorism - as - ________________ to kill as many innocent people as possible is to American terrorism.

Also, in what way would you compare the 38 or 39 country coalition's initiative to remove Saddam Hussein's unpleasant and threatening dictatorship and install a democratically elected coalition government - to - Iran's intiative to "wipe Israel off the map"?

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You are correct in stating the similarities are not absolute. The Us has sponsored anti-state terrorism. In some cases they did not control the results of this sponsorship. If the terrorists blew themselves up it would of been out of the US's hands. Becasue of this I make little difference in blindly supporting/ creating a terrorist faction, and actively supporting a suicide bombing terrorist faction.

First off Saddam's government was democratically elected. The legitimacy of the voter's intent is the only questionable part. But this is tangental.

I have not seen any remarks of how the state of Israel is to be wipedoff the map. There were allusions made to expelling the Jews, I have not heard or read anything that makes this claim. I would certainly want to read it if someone can show me. This said I see little difference between destroying Iraq's government and replacing it with a completely different one and destroying the Israeli governement and replacing it with a different one.

Don't forget that Iran would have a coalition of several Arab nations in this endevor, so coalitions are inaccurate methods of compare.

As a side note Iraq's "democratically elected government" is looking more like a theocracy all the time. If the US helps set up a government whos laws are second to those of Islam, why would Iran's probablly similar mission in the Israeli terroitories be seen any differently?

[BCPVP]

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First off Saddam's government was democratically elected. The legitimacy of the voter's intent is the only questionable part.

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If pulling the "other" lever results in your rapid death, that is not a democracy. Are you really expecting to be taking seriously? You're certainly doing a good job of making yourself irrelevant.

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I have not seen any remarks of how the state of Israel is to be wipedoff the map.

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See it now?

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This said I see little difference between destroying Iraq's government and replacing it with a completely different one and destroying the Israeli governement and replacing it with a different one.

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That's because you don't want to see a difference. The Iranian president didn't just want to change governments in Israel. He wants Israel to cease to exist and the Jewish people to not live there. That's a HUGE difference.