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12-10-2005, 04:26 PM
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Re: Curtains Hand #3 (Degen)
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Well 2 things to consider. 1) What will curtains value bet range be here. I'd think any jack or better is a reasonable range. 2) How often will he bluff with a better hand? Ace high, underpair to the board, maybe bluff with a 7. Don't play with curtains so have no idea. -Jason [/ QUOTE ] curtains is the one who called. 
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12-10-2005, 04:31 PM
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Re: Curtains Hand #3 (Degen)
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[ QUOTE ] Well 2 things to consider. 1) What will curtains value bet range be here. I'd think any jack or better is a reasonable range. 2) How often will he bluff with a better hand? Ace high, underpair to the board, maybe bluff with a 7. Don't play with curtains so have no idea. -Jason [/ QUOTE ] curtains is the one who called. [/ QUOTE ] I thought he was just trying to say to look at it from the other guys point of view.
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12-10-2005, 04:34 PM
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Re: Curtains Hand #3 (Degen)
In any case, I barely even thought about this one...the way the guy was playing a big hand didn't make a lot of sense to me, nor did a mediocre hand that beats Q high, but that the huge stack randomly decided to check both the flop and turn. I didn't think he would limp preflop with Ace high or that he would now bet a seven, so I actually felt the chances were quite good that I was ahead. Sometimes I get carried away with my Q high and J high calls (Ive made some bad ones), but I'm right more than I'm wrong. I sent a ridiculous terrible hand to bluefeet where I called with jack high on the river, which was by far the worst hand of the day, but that hand is much different than this one. Thank goodness he didn't post it, its unbelievably hopelessly bad. Another good thing about knowing someone will see all my hands, is it encourages me to not do mindless stuff like that [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Well it didn't work this time, but maybe in the future...
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#5
12-10-2005, 05:18 PM
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Re: Curtains Hand #3 (Degen)
People are talking about this one as if it is some insanely bad call or something. Well, it is marginal in some senses, but definitely not terrible or anything, certainly not without any context.
It's a hand between blinds. One should have a lot of feel for maximizing EV in such spots. It's not like "Q high? fold the river". Many villains would play this exact board in such a way that calling Q-high here is +EV. I'm not saying it's an auto-call necessarily, but it's not terrible either, IMO, especially with some read.
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