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Re: Why is only Hold Em NL?
In a good no-limit game you should get a lot of information about your hand before the first betting round (or, as others have said, starting hands should not be too close in value) and you should have a lot of information about other players' hands before showdown. In the best limit games, neither of these things are true.
The classic no-limit game, that is silly when played at limit, is five card stud. You know 40% of your hand before the first betting round, and you know 80% of everyone's hand by showdown. The classic limit game, which does not play well no-limit, is five card draw. While you know five cards before the first round, you typically throw away two or three of them; and because you pick the ones to throw away, the cards you get have more information than dealt cards. You know almost nothing about other players' hands at showdown, just what you can guess from their draw and betting. Seven card stud high and hold'em play well either way. Omaha, draw and any lowball or high low game play best at limit. |
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Re: Why is only Hold Em NL?
I believe the WSOP has an event for NL 2-7 draw, but I've never heard of this being played in cash games.
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Re: Why is only Hold Em NL?
Deuce-seven is rarely played, period.
When it is, however it's almost always played N-L. |
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Re: Why is only Hold Em NL?
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Even AAJT DS in omaha isn't more than a 60% favorite over any other hand. [/ QUOTE ] Over 2222 it's a 100% favorite. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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Re: Why is only Hold Em NL?
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Even AAJT DS in omaha isn't more than a 60% favorite over any other hand. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, it is. The following are matchups against random hands. http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396148 As Js Ah Th 0.750 Ks 4s Jd 8h 0.250 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396151 As Js Ah Th 0.719 5c 9d 5h 3h 0.281 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396152 As Js Ah Th 0.790 Qs Qc 8d 2h 0.210 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396156 As Js Ah Th 0.682 5s Ac 7c Qh 0.318 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396158 As Js Ah Th 0.661 6s 3s 8c 9h 0.339 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396164 As Js Ah Th 0.729 Ts 6c Jh 4h 0.271 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396166 As Js Ah Th 0.665 9s Kd 6d 4d 0.335 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396171 As Js Ah Th 0.774 Kc Ad Td 6h 0.226 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396176 As Js Ah Th 0.698 7s Jc 9c 7h 0.302 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396179 As Js Ah Th 0.689 8s Tc 2c 3d 0.311 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396180 As Js Ah Th 0.664 2s 3c Qd 5d 0.336 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1396181 As Js Ah Th 0.680 4c 7d 2d Kh 0.320 |
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Re: Why is only Hold Em NL?
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Deuce-seven is rarely played, period. When it is, however it's almost always played N-L. [/ QUOTE ] This is just plain incorrect. |
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Re: Why is only Hold Em NL?
There are NL Omaha games on 'Stars. I know of some home games that play PL stud, and Lowball draw in both variants is often played NL.
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Re: Why is only Hold Em NL?
Where is this game played limit on even a semi-regular basis ?
I am talking about straight 2-7, not triple draw. |
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Re: Why is only Hold Em NL?
Omaha is best played at POT LIMIT----Draw and LOWBALL are GREAT POT LIMIT games
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Re: Why is only Hold Em NL?
I played the NL Omaha 8 on Stars, and it's just crap. I won a bunch of money, but the game is ridiculous. Get a good hand pre-flop, push all your crap in and pray.
Plus, I don't think any hand is a real dominating favorite pre-flop like in holdem...so you could lose a lot in a hurry trying to bully with a 60-40 favorite. |
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