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Re: Athiests; a question.
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<font color="blue"> There is a living human being there, yet there is no cognitive or mental activity. So, is this George or not? If not, who is the human being in the hospital bed? </font> So it is my belief that a man who dies at 8:53, does not exist at 8:54. His body is still there and you can still pin his old identifying name "George" if you like, but George is gone. It's a dead body in the bed that was "once" George. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. That's my view too by the way--that once I'm dead I no longer exist. But I don't think I'm a 'mind' in some sense, although of course I have a mind, but not essentially. I think that I am fundamentally a biological entity, a human animal, and that I can still exist even if I'm in a persistent vegetative state with no consciousness and no mental activity. |
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Re: Athiests; a question.
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We could say that at 8:53pm he ceases to be alive, but he doesn't cease to exist until some time after that. That's George in the hospital bed, and he's dead. So, I'll grant that he ceases to be alive at 8:53pm, but tell me why you think he ceases to exist at 8:53pm. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] That's my view too by the way--that once I'm dead I no longer exist. [/ QUOTE ] You agree in the 1st quote that George is dead. You agree in the second quote that dead = don't exist. Yet, when I read the 1st quote it insists that just because G died doesn't mean he doesn't exist. My error. I was taking your posts as seriously trying to make a point, cute, enjoyed thinking it through even if it was a spoof. luckyme |
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Re: Athiests; a question.
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[ QUOTE ] We could say that at 8:53pm he ceases to be alive, but he doesn't cease to exist until some time after that. That's George in the hospital bed, and he's dead. So, I'll grant that he ceases to be alive at 8:53pm, but tell me why you think he ceases to exist at 8:53pm. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] That's my view too by the way--that once I'm dead I no longer exist. [/ QUOTE ] You agree in the 1st quote that George is dead. You agree in the second quote that dead = don't exist. Yet, when I read the 1st quote it insists that just because G died doesn't mean he doesn't exist. My error. I was taking your posts as seriously trying to make a point, cute, enjoyed thinking it through even if it was a spoof. luckyme [/ QUOTE ] Crazy philosophers, always playing devil's advocate. |
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