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12-06-2005, 12:32 PM
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Re: QQ on Interesting Turn
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you have to at least call, you are getting 11:1 on your gutshot and discounted Q outs [/ QUOTE ] You're getting 11:1 if there's a guarantee of no more action. But if either of the two players left to starts putting more money in the pot either now or on 5th street, you might have wished you had folded. You're actually getting 13:1 if the two hands behind you call. Suppose we call here, and get two overcalls. What's the plan for the river? How about one overcall? I can see the merits of a call here, but we need a plan going forward. 
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#3
12-06-2005, 01:15 PM
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Re: QQ on Interesting Turn
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I decided to call and bet most rivers. [/ QUOTE ] I think this a good plan as you should pick up extra money from UTG who appears to not have a K. I suggested a 3-bet on the turn for this reason, but thinking about it a little more I like this plan better as you encourage this guy to call with a wider range. OTOH though, it would be really sexy if you 3-bet promotion raise the turn, forcing out a better hand from UTG while getting all in against a guy trying to get his money in on a long shot. This is probably wishful thinking, but maybe, just maybe.... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#4
12-06-2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: QQ on Interesting Turn
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[ QUOTE ] I decided to call and bet most rivers. [/ QUOTE ] I think this a good plan as you should pick up extra money from UTG who appears to not have a K. I suggested a 3-bet on the turn for this reason, but thinking about it a little more I like this plan better as you encourage this guy to call with a wider range. OTOH though, it would be really sexy if you 3-bet promotion raise the turn, forcing out a better hand from UTG while getting all in against a guy trying to get his money in on a long shot. This is probably wishful thinking, but maybe, just maybe.... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Lol [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]. This would be fine but I don;t think you ever get UTG to fold a better hand since he is closing the action and getting approximately 7:1 or so on the call (only about 4:1 on the call down though). I think however that the best strategy is to call turn, bet river. That way you get more bets when you beat UTG, raising turn is spewing [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]. True
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