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Old 12-06-2005, 11:55 AM
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Did he bet?
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:59 AM
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he didnt bet.
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:59 AM
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Did he bet?

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Yeah.
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:02 PM
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wait so if he bet how did he se the turn?
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:18 PM
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wait so if he bet how did he se the turn?

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He bet flop. I called.
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:19 PM
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I think if you make a move like this, you have to protect your hand. When your "best" hand is A-high, you have to protect it with a flop raise. The check is fine to induce the bluff, but you have to push him out of the pot then. If you had KJ instead, you could check/call to the river to your heart's content.
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:21 PM
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I think if you make a move like this, you have to protect your hand. When your "best" hand is A-high, you have to protect it with a flop raise. The check is fine to induce the bluff, but you have to push him out of the pot then. If you had KJ instead, you could check/call to the river to your heart's content.

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But if you know your opponent's hand is ten high on the flop, you would still want to protect your hand?
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:25 PM
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Here's the thing. If you know he had T3o, of course you can give him as many free cards as you like. Because when a T or 3 hits, you can get out. But he didn't flash the cards to you or anything. So all you really know is that he's probably weak. The problem is he might stack you on a 3 or T. But he can bluff you out on a Q, 9, 8, 7, 6, 4, 2.

Did you fold when he hit his T on the turn?
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:27 PM
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Here's the thing. If you know he had T3o, of course you can give him as many free cards as you like. Because when a T or 3 hits, you can get out. But he didn't flash the cards to you or anything. So all you really know is that he's probably weak. The problem is he might stack you on a 3 or T. But he can bluff you out on a Q, 9, 8, 7, 6, 4, 2.

Did you fold when he hit his T on the turn?

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He checked turn and river. Go figure.
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:28 PM
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I think if you make a move like this, you have to protect your hand. When your "best" hand is A-high, you have to protect it with a flop raise. The check is fine to induce the bluff, but you have to push him out of the pot then. If you had KJ instead, you could check/call to the river to your heart's content.

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But if you know your opponent's hand is ten high on the flop, you would still want to protect your hand?

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You shouldn't be arguing with the people at the table, ever. It's tempting, but don't do it.

If you know he will fold to a bet, you should bet. I would want to take the pot down any way I can, for as cheap as I can, as soon as I can. You aren't inducing a bluff with a monster here, you have A high. Giving free cards is still bad. Think about it, T3 vs AJ is still only a 2 to 1 edge. It's not aces.

All you're doing is committing him to the pot more, which means he's less likely to fold later. How do you know he didnt bet with a good hand?

Overall, you WAY overestimated your strength here. Best move would be to bet the flop if you know he'll fold.
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