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Old 12-05-2005, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: 20/40, hands like this are killing me - Q6s blind war

Good post since this situation comes up so often.

First, you didn't "give away the initiative," it was taken from you. There's a big difference, since the latter much more often means that he's got something.

Second, and this goes with the first, since he's got something and you've got Q high, you lose. Good players minimize the amount they lose in these situations. Folding isn't a sin, it just starts to drive you nuts when it seems like you're constantly whiffing and having to fold and get paranoid and think that everyone has just pegged you as weak tight and is running over you with nothing.

Third, sometimes donking the flop isn't such a bad line, since it often folds Ax or whatever, whereas those hands seem to think that it's necessary to call if c/red (and they are getting better odds on their call, so it's not entirely crazy). Also, it saves you one SB when you get raised on the turn.

Finally, and I'm pretty sure you do this anyway, but if you're going to c/r flops in these situations you have to do it with big hands sometimes as well.
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