Valued Posts and Posters

TGoldman · #1 12-03-2005, 12:52 PM

Since reading material on PLO/8 is so limited, I learned to play pretty much through my own experimentation along with help from this forum. LO8 advice from Buzz and PLO8 advice from Wintermute and Ribbo (to name only two) definitely molded me as a player. Now, I'm far from a PLO/8 guru, but I know enough to recognize advice that is blatantly good or bad. I admit nine months ago, good advice was probably easier to find just because the forum was smaller than it is today (btw, whatever happened to JoshuaMayes??). Now it's grown and at times you have to be selective about whose advice to read. "Test everything. Hold on to the good." For the most part, the advice on here is still good and very good compared to other forums. For many reasons, this is my favorite forum on 2+2, I hope that it stays that way.

#2 12-03-2005, 01:19 PM

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(btw, whatever happened to JoshuaMayes?)

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No kidding, he was the best poster here. My guess is that he realized he was getting *nothing* out of posting here (not even entertainment value) and so just left. Nothing wrong with that, but too bad.

Wolffink · #3 12-03-2005, 04:08 PM

I didn't know that Fatballz was wintermute.

I was going to mention how I liked Fatballz posts and Gergery's posts. When there's controversy over a hand, I gravitate toward their posts to clear up things.

I found the 6789 hand funny. Even if you didn't catch the joke then when it is head to head vs. AA23s, the raising blind part clues you in that's a prank.

I suppose that's a better post than someone who isn't as knowledgeable, like me, spouting off wrongness without giving any clue that it might be wrong.

Also, experts should be given leeway here. Otherwise they'll leave. If there is a problem, the moderator should first try pm'ing them. Praise should be public, criticism private.

kong98 · #4 12-03-2005, 04:21 PM

I'm very new to O8, and I originally took Fatballz post as correct. It was a surprising result, but I run into surprising things in poker all the time! (It never crossed my mind that someone would falsify twodimes results and make what appeared to be a serious post. I guess the joke's on me.) I'm glad Buzz and others came along to correct this misinformation.

With that being said, I took the easy route and am now ignoring FatBallz posts. He may post some great information, but I'll never see it. As a newbie without the O8 knowledge to know good advice from bad advice, its just not worth it.

beset7 · #5 12-03-2005, 04:40 PM

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Also, experts should be given leeway here.

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I totally agree. I gave Ribbo all kinds of leeway but it was something short of a handjob so he scooted.

#6 12-04-2005, 04:32 PM

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Click the notify moderator button each time you see a post that you think should be in the beginners forum or internet gambling or somewhere else and if I agree I'll take care of it

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OK, thanks Beset.

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I completely disagree. How to read low boards and counting outs are exactly the type of threads newer players should be reading in this forum. Counting outs in particular is quite difficult even for intermediate players.

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I think such info (atleast how to read a low) should be included in the Omaha/8 FAQ. This would create less hostility from people who have seen such threads over and over again.

#7 12-05-2005, 12:55 AM

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I think such info (atleast how to read a low) should be included in the Omaha/8 FAQ. This would create less hostility from people who have seen such threads over and over again.

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Um, wtf are you talking about? This has been in the FAQ for months:

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7) How does the Eight or Better low work in O8?

In any high/low game where eight or better is the qualifier, you must have a five-card hand with all five ranks eight or below. For example, if you are playing O8, and you hold A23K in your hand, the board still has to show three cards eight or below for your low to qualifiy (in Omaha you MUST use exactly three board cards and two of your cards). If the board only shows two cards below eight (84QKT) it does not matter that you have three low cards in your hand, you still have NO low.

An easy way for reading your low is to read from the top rank down, instead of the bottom rank up. So if you hold A23K, and the board is 456JQ, your low is: 6542A. If you read your hand as a whole number, you will easily be able to figure out who has the best low (this is applicable in any low game, not just O8). For instance, your 6542A can be turned into: 65,421 (aces always count as both high and low, so they will be assigned a ONE in determining your low). If your opponent has 23QK in his hand, his low is 65,432. Do you see that your "whole number" is lower than his? He can never beat your low with this hand and this board. Reading your low as a whole number will save you much heartache if you are used to counting your low from the bottom up and do not understand when the pot is taken away from you.

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As for this:

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Looking at the front page --- I'm about to puke. I didn't come to this forum for this!

I think we need to get rid of all these [censored] threads. Move them or delete them on the spot. Im talking about the retarded ones, like how to count outs or how to figure out lows. Its a shame noone is posting interesting hands anymore.

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If you want more quality hand posts, post em. It's that simple. Lead the way chief.

As for the rest, newbies can ask dumb questions if they want. We're not the thread police. This place is here for 2+2 to make money and for any and all discussions relating to 08. It's not a private forum for you and your buddies to debate the intricacies of $2000 PL08 hands vs ZAPPUD.

beset7 · #8 12-05-2005, 01:12 AM

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As for this:

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Looking at the front page --- I'm about to puke. I didn't come to this forum for this!

I think we need to get rid of all these [censored] threads. Move them or delete them on the spot. Im talking about the retarded ones, like how to count outs or how to figure out lows. Its a shame noone is posting interesting hands anymore.

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If you want more quality hand posts, post em. It's that simple. Lead the way chief.

As for the rest, newbies can ask dumb questions if they want. We're not the thread police. This place is here for 2+2 to make money and for any and all discussions relating to 08. It's not a private forum for you and your buddies to debate the intricacies of $2000 PL08 hands vs ZAPPUD.

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I think the one exception here is the low counting thing. If someone asks something that's in the FAQ I'll lock the thread and direct them to the FAQ.