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Re: I win, now what?
Hi Bobby
I liked his flop bet for the following reasons; 1) The pot is large 2)The board is ragged 3)Only 5 cards connect with the board which makes it less likely that someone made a hand. 4)Betting will not win immediately, but it will improve your winning chances in this raised pot. IMO those reasons outweigh taking the free card on the flop. Ice |
#42
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Re: I win, now what?
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Rob, Brett, Bobby, I think you guys are right. I autobet too many flops. I am going to stop doing that. I think that this might well be a pretty valuable realization for me. Thanks for the assistance. -Will(y) [/ QUOTE ] I think this is a problem of mine as well. I really need to reread these posts so I can grasp this. I think I would have bet this flop, but I can see now that I'd probably be wrong. |
#43
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Re: I win, now what?
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[ QUOTE ] Here, you just have overcards and backdoors. [/ QUOTE ] On a paired board, no less. Those two hands are completely different. I don't think we're talking a huge difference in EV here, but given how often this comes up when you start making these SC-type raises in LP and you miss a flop where your FE isn't superduper and your equity itself isn't great. Rob [/ QUOTE ] I thought a 44T flop was really quite nice. Less cards connecting. I understanding the hand values, flops and PF betting was completely different. I'm just saying I feel some of the concepts still apply. What's an SC-Type raise? I think you're probably right in that this is better to take the free card here, but I also don't think it's "wrong" to bet this flop. Just not as good. |
#44
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Re: I win, now what?
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but I also don't think it's "wrong" to bet this flop. Just not as good. [/ QUOTE ] If betting makes you money, and checking makes you more money, then I consider betting wrong. Just how I like to think of poker EV questions. I'm not feeling super dogmatic about this one, just so you know; I'm weighing my feelings but I think with one "aggressive nit" and a few other unknowns, I'm not sure what purpose a bet serves here. Against fewer or more I wouldn't mind it as much. Rob |
#45
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If betting makes you money, and checking makes you more money, then I consider betting wrong. Just how I like to think of poker EV questions. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah. You're right. |
#46
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Re: I win, now what?
Call down.
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#47
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Sorry for the flooding of posts today. villain is an aggressive nit. I've been involved in like 3 conversations over the last 24 hours on hands like this. Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls. Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls. Turn: (7 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero ? [/ QUOTE ] If you don't know what to do, what was the purpose in raising preflop? In case you catch a str8 or flush draw? |
#48
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Re: I win, now what?
I agree checking the flop is better than betting. You just don't have enough juice here. Also, I didn't see it mentioned above that anybody w/a 10 or 4 has redraws should you get lucky w/your backdoor outs.
Also, I think you gotta raise the turn. You've got a lotta equity against his range, and it's a BB street. Pump him now. |
#49
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anybody w/a 10 or 4 has redraws should you get lucky w/your backdoor outs. [/ QUOTE ] Oops, I meant not all your backdoor outs are clean. |
#50
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I win, now what? [/ QUOTE ] play 3/6? |
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