Another Interesting Home Game situation

[Alex/Mugaaz]

It's heads up. He flopped the nuts, he clearly meant to call. You lost. Who cares what the rules are, it's so obvious what is intended and even you know it, AND it's a friendly game. The end.

[Huskiez]

Exposing cards is not a fold in a tournament. The hand is still live. He can call.

You can impose a penalty if you want. I would not personally cause this is a home game.

[KenProspero]

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You can impose a penalty if you want. I would not personally cause this is a home game.

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I would definately impose a penalty -- probably something like, he has to run to the fridge and get me a beer the next time he can do so without holding up the game.

What everyone else said...the hand is not dead, so he can call. Even if it was "dead", if you ruled it that way then you were probably being selfish and unecessarily jerk-like :P

[Snarf]

I ruled it a call. Just curious what everyone else thought

[KJL]

Was he last to act. Because in a tournament, you are allowed to expose your cards if no more bets can be made. This would be the case since your all-in and he is last to act. However, even if his hand is really dead, he has the nuts, your just being an [censored] if you make him fold this.

[EStreet20]

No offense but you're completely wrong here Shnarf. While you are right, the ruling is obvious, the ruling you think is obviously correct is actually wrong. In every tourney I've ever played in, and according to any official tourney rules I've read, when the pot is headsus a player may expose his/her hand at any time. Since it was folded around, this player may show his cards before calling.

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No offense but you're completely wrong here Shnarf. While you are right, the ruling is obvious, the ruling you think is obviously correct is actually wrong. In every tourney I've ever played in, and according to any official tourney rules I've read, when the pot is headsus a player may expose his/her hand at any time. Since it was folded around, this player may show his cards before calling.

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Well then you have never read the TDA rules. Under TDA rules even heads up with no further action to come from another player, a player may not expose his cards. However under TDA rules the hand would not be dead, exposing the hand MAY result in a penalty (time away from the table) but not a dead hand.

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Yeah - I though the exposed hand would be 'officially' dead...but I see your points about penalizing instead of declaring it dead....

Isn't the whole point point of not allowing you to show so that no one can get reads on people from showing?
...but with no more action to come and him holding the nuts --- now I think that this would be declared a call in any game anywhere.

the point is that you don't affect OTHER people's actions...with no one left to act, thats obviously not a problem [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]