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Old 12-02-2005, 05:17 AM
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The looser he is the more likely you should be to bet. The more agressive he is the more likely you should be to check. This guy is loose and we don't really know how aggressive. There's a flush draw out there which should make you more likely to bet. I would fold to a raise here.

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Essentially my thoughts. This is what I ended up doing. Would you check here against a tightish-aggro player as well, something like a 23/13/2?

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I think it's so close that it doesn't make much difference between bet/fold and check and call the river. If he's the creative type, it's a clear check. If he's almost incapable of a bluff CR, bet. If you don't know, mix it up.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: QQ Turn Play

I bet this and fold to a c/r. They almost always have an Ace.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: QQ Turn Play

IMO, this is a bet and it's not close.

He's far more likely to have a 9, pp, fd, or maybe bdfd with broadways than he is to have an A. He will call a turn bet with almost all of the former hands. Him possibly being tricky enough to c/r as a bluff or semibluff should not deter you from betting, but rather from folding to the c/r. Use your better judgement and specific postflop reads, table image as to whether or not to call down a c/r, but with a player this loose you need to bet.

Your analysis is also somewhat contradictory. If you are worried that he may bluff c/r this turn too often for you to bet, you cannot also expect him to bluff at the river often when you check. You will only induce him to value bet his pps and 9s (which he would call with anyways), meaning you collect 1 less bet.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: QQ Turn Play

I bet the turn. You will get called by PPs, 9s, FDs plus anyother garbage they call down with.

Im folding to a C/R. I see trips here way too often.
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: QQ Turn Play

bet/call and call a river bet. i think checking here is a HUGE mistake.
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