River Explosion

[Ed Miller]

30-60 game at the Bellagio. Hero is a friend of mine and a strong player. I wasn't playing in the game, so I don't have much detail about the table texture. Button was described to me as "aggressive."

Hero has 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the BB. EP, MP, and the button limp. The small blind completes. Hero checks.

Flop is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Small blind checks, hero checks, and it is checked around.

Turn is the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Small blind checks, hero checks, and it is checked around.

River is the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Small blind checks, hero bets, EP raises (reacting to the river card in a way that suggests that it helped his hand), MP folds, and button 3-bets. Small blind folds. What is your action?

[Joe Tall]

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Hero is a friend of mine and a strong player

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Then why did he allow flopped trips to be check around twice?

I think he has to fold and played terribly.

Peace,
Joe Tall

[Ed Miller]

Then why did he allow flopped trips to be check around twice?

I think he has to fold and played terribly.

I don't understand why you evaulate the hand this way. I for one would play my hand this way sometimes, especially in the Bellagio 30-60. In that game, people rarely leave money to rot in the middle of the table, so to speak. I was shocked when he told me that five players, including an aggressive button, checked a 6522 board in a Bellagio 30-60 game.

Why do you think he should fold?

[CrackerZack]

Ask him why he doesn't bet the turn. Dynasty, why didn't you bet the turn? Flashbacks to checking AA twice? I think I call it and go for the overcall. Helping his hand probably means some crap like A7 or distantly 76 but that should be betting the turn. Button is aggressive so could have any crappy pair. 77 shouldn't be a concern because if you have 77, and by some miracle its an overpair, and you let the turn get checked, you should be forced to go play craps for an hour with your 7. If you think mister 7 will call 2 cold, a raise isn't terrible, but I like the call/overcall as it risks less.

[PokerBabe(aka)]

My "action" is to get a job after playing this hand so poorly. What is the advantage of checking the turn? No, wait...what is the advantage of checking the flop? With so many opponents in the hand, I would bet out 100% of the time here. Having failed to bet the flop, I am mystified as to why your pal didn't bet the turn. What trap is he trying to set now that a second heart comes on board and he gives yet another draw a shot at beating him on the river?

Can't wait to hear others' views on this one.

LGPG,

Babe [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

[Joe Tall]

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I for one would play my hand this way sometimes, especially in the Bellagio 30-60.

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Why? I see no reason to check the turn.

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Why do you think he should fold?

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Now that I re-read the post, I would over-call. I was caught up in the check-arounds and maybe I was thinking he should punish himself and fold.

Hope it warm there, it starting suck up East here.

Peace,
JT

[mikelow]

Granted our "hero" shouldn't fold. He should call and look at a straight. The hand was played poorly. I'm not a fan of slowplaying. Too often you give free cards, and you're not getting this hand out on the turn.

[Ed Miller]

Why? I see no reason to check the turn.

Because if you never check good hands twice then when you do check the turn, your opponents will be all too happy to bet you off your overcards/gutshots/etc. that you'd like to see a river card with.

[Ed Miller]

Too often you give free cards, and you're not getting this hand out on the turn.

Huh?

[Ed Miller]

Dynasty, why didn't you bet the turn?

Hero wasn't Dynasty. Dynasty can post his own damn hands.