Is ND really deserving for BCS

[Dudd]

Willingham did not make it to a BCS bowl game, that was Davie's team in 2000. Willingham's team got blown out in the Gator Bowl by NC State.

[pokerdirty]

I'm going to put in the teams final record, and then the record and ranking of the team before ND played them.

Look at your schedule:

Pittsburgh (5-6) (0-0, #23)
Michigan (7-4) (1-0, #3) BCS: #19
Michigan State (5-6) (2-0, NR)
Washington (2-9) (1-2, NR)
Purdue (5-6) (2-1, #22)
USC (11-0) (5-0, #1) BCS: #1
BYU (6-5) (3-3, NR)
Tennessee (5-6) (3-4, NR)
Navy (6-4) (5-3, NR)
Syracuse (1-10) (1-8, NR)
Stanford (5-6) (5-5, NR)

As you can see, ND made their rise up the polls early by beating highly ranked (at the time) teams, and then held their ranking by barely losing to what looked like a struggling USC team at the time, and beating up on teams like the Cuse. Only 2 teams ND played are currently in the BCS, Michigan and USC.

Is ND at top 15 team? Without a doubt. Should they be in a BCS bowl? I'd say probably not, I think there are definately better teams out there. I'll still be looking forward to an OSU/ND game like the ones we had in the 90s. We stomped your ass then and will likely do it again.

[tdarko]

good post.

[trotski]

Yes. They played one of the greatest college games in recent memory, and, hung with the best team in college football, if Reggie Bush doesn't help Leinart across the goaline, they beat the best team in college football. They are more then deserving, and they will be in the title game next year.

[TomCollins]

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Yes. They played one of the greatest college games in recent memory, and, hung with the best team in college football, if Reggie Bush doesn't help Leinart across the goaline, they beat the best team in college football. They are more then deserving, and they will be in the title game next year.

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Care to bet? I'll lay you 2-1.

[roundest]

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Yes. They played one of the greatest college games in recent memory, and, hung with the best team in college football, if Reggie Bush doesn't help Leinart across the goaline, they beat the best team in college football. They are more then deserving, and they will be in the title game next year.

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Care to bet? I'll lay you 2-1.

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I'll give him 10-1.

[pokerdirty]

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good post.

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yeah, i know. even I make one of those every now and then. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

and ladies, will you quit bitching about michigan in here? christ there is so much thread hijacking that goes on in here...

[pudley4]

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The average Total Defense rank of Notre Dame's 11 opponents....67th.

Wow, 67th. That includes Purdue and Stanford who come in respectively at 100th and 106th. That great offense must be Weis. Not the fact that you had a veteran QB with a heck of an O-Line and a heck of a TE.

Look at your schedule:
Pittsburgh
Michigan
Michigan State
Washington
Purdue
USC
BYU
Tennessee
Navy
Syracuse
Stanford

Honestly just think about it? Pitt, Tennessee(at their given state which they didn't care anymore), Washington, BYU, Navy, Syracuse, Stanford???? That's 7 gimme wins. Never really noticed that.

Auburn's is 30th, and they beat three teams that are currently ranked inside the top 20. Thier two losses came to LSU who they should have beat but their kicker went 1/6 and they only lost 17-20, and a loss to GT in the opening game with a undeveloped offense, Iron's got one carry that game and their QB had his first start of his career. Auburns offense is just as leathel as ND plus they have a D to back it up. In my personal opinion I think the match up should be OSU vs. Auburn. These two teams are playing better than ND or Oregon right now and if either OSU or Auburn had to play ND it would result in a loss for ND.
Oh yeah Oregon's average total d rank is 79th, yes I know it's the pac ten style of play but its still weak.

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Yes.

The BCS is set up for 2 reasons:

1 - Try to get a national championship game. Assuming USC and Texas both win next weekend, the BCS will successfully accomplish this goal.

2 - Make money for the Bowls. The BCS is not designed to pit the 8 best teams in the country against one another. Its secondary goal is to allow the Bowls to both keep their traditions and to create a good matchup that will make money for the Bowl. This is acccomplished by keeping the teams in their traditional Bowl games whenever possible, and by allowing the Bowls to choose 2 at-large teams who meet certain criteria. ND meets the criteria and will attract a large in-stadium and TV audience, making the Bowl successful. Therefore ND deserves a BCS bid. Simple, end of thread.

[Bulldog]

If UCLA or Colorado can't get the Nittany Lions into the Rose Bowl, please, puh-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE bowl selection officials, find a way for PSU to play Notre Dame. I'd love to see us kick their butts by about three touchdowns.

[pudley4]

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If UCLA or Colorado can't get the Nittany Lions into the Rose Bowl, please, puh-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE bowl selection officials, find a way for PSU to play Notre Dame. I'd love to see us kick their butts by about three touchdowns.

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I'd love to see that game, but there's no way it happens without massive backroom deals/payoffs between the Bowls. ND and PSU will be the first and second teams chosen by the Bowls to fill their available slots so they won't be able to meet.