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Not extracting value or avoiding trouble... QQ
Hello all,
I haven't posted much on the forums, so a little background on me... I play PP $25 full and 6-max, and for a while I was loosing (slowly, but surely) but the occassional big hand and deposit bonuses kept me afloat. I finally took a significant break, read a bunch of books and lurked on this forum for several months. It's finally paid of and I'm now winning a decent amount - still at the same level. However, I believe one of my big leaks is not extracting enough value from my opponents when I have a pretty strong hand w/ a scary (or not-so-scary) board. I guess I tend to see too many monsters under the bed (particularly with a possible flush out). I'm often unsure of when to slow down and when to keep value betting at my opponent. The hand below is indicative of my problems: My PT stats: NL $25 - VPIP 19.3 / PFR 5.8 / PFA 2.4 NL $25 (6-max) - VPIP 23.9 / PFR 9.0 / PFA 2.3 Keep in mind these numbers include my "earlier days" when I was a lot looser w/ troublesome hands from EP (KQ, KJ, etc. and my arch nemesis AJ...) and a tad too agressive w/ potentially dominated hands. Reads at this point: BB was fairly loose and hand called several $1 PF raises both with and without position... hadn't yet noticed much beyond that. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Button ($23.50) SB ($8.29) BB ($36.30) UTG ($8.80) MP ($3.50) Hero ($30.08) Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75. Flop: ($2.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, BB calls $5. Turn: ($16.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4. River: ($24.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5. Final Pot: $34.10 I appreciate any input and I'm going to start posting more hands and actually responding to others now that I actually feel like I know a little bit more than nothing... ViperBull |
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Re: Not extracting value or avoiding trouble... QQ
First i would make 1.25 standard starting rraise + 0.25 for every limper. $1 just seems to keep the junk hands in with me, wierd how a quarter makes the difference [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. Anyway, it appears with villans weak turn bet that he is on sometype of draw and/or has a weak holding. Im bumping up the turn to $12 to see where i stand. He calls that and rivers a blank im value betting against a J i believe.
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