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Old 11-23-2005, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: Two big schools: Any comparison studies?

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Raising AK for value just doesn’t cut it.

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I think you need to run some of those simulations you were talking about.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:33 AM
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Tell me what's the winning % of AK against 4 callers.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:38 AM
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Tell me what's the winning % of AK against 4 callers.

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About 30%

Tell me what late game tourney you are playing that has 4 callers calling a push.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:57 AM
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30%? I thought that is against one opponent.

I did mention DEPENDING ON SITUATION, didn't I?
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: Two big schools: Any comparison studies?

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30%? I thought that is against one opponent.

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You thought wrong.

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I did mention DEPENDING ON SITUATION, didn't I?

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Yes, however bringing up situations that never occur doesn't really help anyone. Not to mention it is still probably correct to push in your absurd situation.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:13 AM
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Where do you get that 30% figure?

And I specifically did not write "pushing" into 4 callers. Though it was my fault not mentioning "raising 3bb" by assuming that you think I am slightly better than a very bad player. Don't put motives and words into my mouth.
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Two big schools: Any comparison studies?

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Where do you get that 30% figure?

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You can try PokerStove or any number of other calculators out there.
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Old 11-23-2005, 03:15 AM
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Default Re: Two big schools: Any comparison studies?

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And I specifically did not write "pushing" into 4 callers.

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Sorry, I thought we were talking about pushers vs. limpers in late game sit n gos. However, not raising AK preflop when 4 people will call is rarely correct.

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Though it was my fault not mentioning "raising 3bb" by assuming that you think I am slightly better than a very bad player.

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Once again I thought we were talking about late game strategies so why would I assume you would be raising 3bb instead of pushing. I have never seen you play so I have no idea if you are a good or bad player. I thought you were just arguing anyways.

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Don't put motives and words into my mouth.

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I don't think I did, but if you think otherwise, I apologize.
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