Tipping in higher limit games

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Finally, for your analogy to be accurate, you should be tipping dealers proportional to their competence at the end of their down, regardless of whether you win a pot.

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I actually wish this were the system.

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I play for fun, so maybe my philosophy is different. I take this analogy: when tipping a waitress - you usually tip 15-20%. If the meal is more expensive you tip more. If she sucks, you may stiff her a little on the tip, say, 10%, and if she's good, you'll give her a little more. But the constant in all this is that the percentage is in relation to how much your bill came out to. It's not like she's carrying heavier plates or anything for more expensive dishes - it's all the same whether it's a burger or kobe beef.

I do tip more if I win a bigger pot. For a 1200 pot in a 1/2NL game, i'd probably tip 15, b/c that's a HUGE pot for 1/2 (600BB), maybe more depending on my mood, how much of the pot was my money, and how good the dealer is. If it's a $5 pot, I don't tip anything. Tipping $1 for a 600BB pot i think is being a bit on the cheap side.

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Your analogy is bad. Expensive restaurants have different standards and expectations from less expensive ones, particularly when it comes to service. Further, the staff at The French Laundry is substantially different across every meaningful dimension from the neighborhood Olive Garden.

Finally, for your analogy to be accurate, you should be tipping dealers proportional to their competence at the end of their down, regardless of whether you win a pot.

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I dont think his analagy is that bad. The server is just bringing you your food the same as a dealer is just pushing you the pot. Why should i give one server 40$ and another one 20$ just because of the price of food? Both are doing the same job. One may do the job better but do they deserve substantially more money for the same job?

[sfer]

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I play for fun, so maybe my philosophy is different. I take this analogy: when tipping a waitress - you usually tip 15-20%. If the meal is more expensive you tip more. If she sucks, you may stiff her a little on the tip, say, 10%, and if she's good, you'll give her a little more. But the constant in all this is that the percentage is in relation to how much your bill came out to. It's not like she's carrying heavier plates or anything for more expensive dishes - it's all the same whether it's a burger or kobe beef.

I do tip more if I win a bigger pot. For a 1200 pot in a 1/2NL game, i'd probably tip 15, b/c that's a HUGE pot for 1/2 (600BB), maybe more depending on my mood, how much of the pot was my money, and how good the dealer is. If it's a $5 pot, I don't tip anything. Tipping $1 for a 600BB pot i think is being a bit on the cheap side.

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Your analogy is bad. Expensive restaurants have different standards and expectations from less expensive ones, particularly when it comes to service. Further, the staff at The French Laundry is substantially different across every meaningful dimension from the neighborhood Olive Garden.

Finally, for your analogy to be accurate, you should be tipping dealers proportional to their competence at the end of their down, regardless of whether you win a pot.

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I dont think his analagy is that bad. The server is just bringing you your food the same as a dealer is just pushing you the pot. Why should i give one server 40$ and another one 20$ just because of the price of food? Both are doing the same job. One may do the job better but do they deserve substantially more money for the same job?

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Good job missing the point.

[belloc]

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Finally, for your analogy to be accurate, you should be tipping dealers proportional to their competence at the end of their down, regardless of whether you win a pot.

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I played with a guy in a 9/18 game a couple nights ago who, every time he won a pot, added one or two $1 chips to a little stack off to the side of his chips. He would tell each dealer that he would be awarded the stack at the end of his down if he didn't deal him any bad beats.

[AKQJ10]

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Your analogy is bad. Expensive restaurants have different standards and expectations from less expensive ones, particularly when it comes to service.

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How does that differ from expectations in a $2/4 versus $75/150 game?

[Dazarath]

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I guess it depends on whether you see tokes as, "I'm rewarding you for your hard work," or "I'm sharing part of my recent good fortune with you." I tend to see it as a mix of the two -- but of course, that suits me as a low-limit player because it gives me an excuse to tip half-dollars at the Foxwoods $2/4.

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I tend to look at it as a customary thing, so I just do it. There are times where I think a dealer has done his job very well, like a player gets out of line and he settles the situation in a professional manner, or he deals very quickly and makes sure the hands per hour we get is high. In these cases, I will tip when they get up. In general though, I only sometimes look at it as reward for hard work and rarely look at is as sharing my fortune.

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I play for fun, so maybe my philosophy is different. I take this analogy: when tipping a waitress - you usually tip 15-20%. If the meal is more expensive you tip more. If she sucks, you may stiff her a little on the tip, say, 10%, and if she's good, you'll give her a little more. But the constant in all this is that the percentage is in relation to how much your bill came out to. It's not like she's carrying heavier plates or anything for more expensive dishes - it's all the same whether it's a burger or kobe beef.

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I think you've made a good point. People look at the game differently. A lot of players here don't look at the game as "just for fun". With the philosophy of always trying to get money from +EV situations, it's -EV to tip more than necessary.

I look at tipping waitresses differently. Again, I see it as customary, but when I go to eat dinner, I just treat it as part of the cost. I go out to eat dinner with friends to have fun and get a good meal. I'm not scrounging for +EV situations when I eat. Otherwise, I'd have eaten at home for 1/5 the cost.