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Old 11-21-2005, 06:35 PM
obsidian obsidian is offline
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Default Re: Is there a point where I stop raising here?

I would never, ever stop raising here with the 2nd nuts when the pre-flop and flop action makes it almost impossible for him to have the nuts.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: Is there a point where I stop raising here?

i've definitely seen clueless people play an underpair that hard, saying the previous action makes 33 "almost impossible" is a pretty ridiculous thing to say IMO. anyone dumb enough to play AA like this is clearly dumb enough to put in that many bets preflop (they capped a reraise heads up, that means just about nothing) and on the flop with 33. these people don't know what they're doing.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: Is there a point where I stop raising here?

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anyone dumb enough to play AA like this is clearly dumb enough to put in that many bets preflop (they capped a reraise heads up, that means just about nothing) and on the flop with 33.

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definately. I think I would start to worry especially with people standing around the table and after 50 bets show a cooler. I would feel like a damn idiot if he had 33.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:30 PM
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I think I would start to worry especially with people standing around the table and after 50 bets show a cooler.

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I'm not familiar with this term, what do you mean? Cheating?
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Old 11-22-2005, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: Is there a point where I stop raising here?

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I think I would start to worry especially with people standing around the table and after 50 bets show a cooler.

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I'm not familiar with this term, what do you mean? Cheating?

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the second nuts.
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Old 11-23-2005, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Is there a point where I stop raising here?

Look at it this way.

There is no hand that he could bring to 20 bets on the flop that he could conceivably have that would make sense. If he's bringing it to 13 bets with 3/3 on a flop with 3 overcards, he's just as likely to bring any full house to 50 (or whatever) bets with any full house. I'd say it's more likely.

If you're risk neutral, repeated raises are necessary. If you aren't risk neutral (say, the chips on the table are needed for rent money), then you could make an argument for not raising all of it.
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But seriously... if it was NL, I would have called an all-in, so in this case, I would definitely keep raising.

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Horribly flawed way of thinking, and probably not too much off from what the guy with aces was thinking when he raised an absurd amount of bets there with such a vulnerable hand.

In this situation, yeah, you probably should be getting it all in except against someone who really does know what theyre doing (and also thinks that you know that you know what you're doing).

The two situations aren't analogous. Because you're willing to push/call an all in for that amount in a no limit game doesnt mean you should raise repeatedly to get all in when the game is LHE.
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