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Flopped nuts - really stupid play - or very unlucky?
I'm leaning towards really stupid....
Villain is pretty solid - but is a table coach - he is ripping into other players and laughing at their plays - and calling out their hands (he hasn't got one right yet - at least for me) - this doesn't bother me - I can give as good as I get - and I tend to stick up for other players as I want the fish to come back and play some more in the long run... I've been looking for a hand to flatten him with - so have been limping hands like Ax suited and PP - and calling up to 4BB PF (especially if Villain was the PF raiser) hoping sooner or later to catch a hand and bring him down to size.... Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx UTG+1 ($49.50) UTG+2 ($47.75) MP1 ($71.25) Hero ($80.71) MP3 ($34.37) CO (Villain)/ ($73.55) Button ($115.98) SB ($36.12) BB ($141.40) UTG ($50) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">CO (Villain)/ raises to $2</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.50, MP3 calls $1.50. Flop: ($8.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $3</font>, Button calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, MP3 calls $6, Villain calls $3, Button calls $3. Turn: ($32.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $10</font>, Button calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ??? </font> If I was to play this hand over I think I'd C/R much more on the flop - I went for speed and the insta-raise... Yes I really was so excited about flopping a nut flush AND having Villain bet against me that I forgot to read the boad properly... comments , criticism and general flames to the usual address..... MA. |
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Re: Flopped nuts - really stupid play - or very unlucky?
lead the flop. my initial bet would have been bigger than what your check-raise was...if the PF raiser has a premium hand, then you'll almost certainly be able to get it in on the flop.
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Re: Flopped nuts - really stupid play - or very unlucky?
Min-raise is bad, lead flop.
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Re: Flopped nuts - really stupid play - or very unlucky?
lead out on the flop for $6. You're worried that villian has the SF? I go broke with the nutflush here...sorry the villian had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Re: Flopped nuts - really stupid play - or very unlucky?
1) Raise or fold pre-flop. In your situation, I generally raise.
2) Lead the flop to make it look like a semi-bluff with the bare A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. 3) As played, push the turn. EDIT: Whoops, I didn't notice the 4 card straight flush on the board. With the bet and caller in there, I just call here, throw in a blocking bet on the river. |
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Re: Flopped nuts - really stupid play - or very unlucky?
Lead flop. You should have check/raised to atleast 12 on the flop. It's interesting to consider what button would play this way. He probably has two pair or a Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and I doubt he'll fold if you check/raise again on the turn. I would keep things simple and lead the turn.
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Re: Flopped nuts - really stupid play - or very unlucky?
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EDIT: Whoops, I didn't notice the 4 card straight flush on the board. With the bet and caller in there, I just call here, throw in a blocking bet on the river. [/ QUOTE ] me neither.... |
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Re: Flopped nuts - really stupid play - or very unlucky?
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lead the flop. my initial bet would have been bigger than what your check-raise was...if the PF raiser has a premium hand, then you'll almost certainly be able to get it in on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] If I wasn't trying to bust out Villain with my hand I would have lead the flop as per normal.... (note to self - stop trying to be clever - cos you're not) I don't see why a c/r on this flop is bad tho - Villain is way behind - he showed aggression PF and is almost bound to bet. My minraise was very bad. If I had been thinking clearly I would have at least tripled - more likely quadrupled his flop raise. My plan was to give him enough rope to hang himself and then drop the hammer... If I lead the flop the most I am likely to get from Villain is a call - I have a TAG image and I thought that a large flop bet would chase out the opposition and I'd miss my chance of stacking this Villain. |
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Re: Flopped nuts - really stupid play - or very unlucky?
Turn: ($32.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $10</font>, Button calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, MP3 folds, Villain calls $55.55 (All-In), Button folds, Hero ??? how much more information do I need to tell me Villain has me beat? Is a fold possible here? - or now that I have hung myself with my own rope am I practically obliged to call? |
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Re: Flopped nuts - really stupid play - or very unlucky?
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...or now that I have hung myself with my own rope am I practically obliged to call? [/ QUOTE ] Yes you are... Because of the pot odds, just say "nh" in the chat and call and play the hand better next time the same situation arises. |
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