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11-21-2005, 02:01 AM
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Re: Interesting 10/25 hand against a solid player.
I'm not sure, but i certainly would not characterize John as a "VERY tight player"....Would you? I think he's very capable of showing up with 34s on this river although i think a flush draw and a set here are both more likely.....
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#2
11-21-2005, 02:07 AM
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Re: Interesting 10/25 hand against a solid player.
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i think a flush draw likely..... [/ QUOTE ] u keep saying this, but i cant believe u...
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#3
11-21-2005, 02:13 AM
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Re: Interesting 10/25 hand against a solid player.
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i think a flush draw likely..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- u keep saying this, but i cant believe u... [/ QUOTE ] Yea.....This is a weird hand because it's tough to figure where john's at....A made hand is more likely than a flush draw but a diamond flush draw is a definite possibility.
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11-21-2005, 02:24 AM
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Re: Interesting 10/25 hand against a solid player.
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[ QUOTE ] i think a flush draw likely..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- u keep saying this, but i cant believe u... [/ QUOTE ] Yea.....This is a weird hand because it's tough to figure where john's at....A made hand is more likely than a flush draw but a diamond flush draw is a definite possibility. [/ QUOTE ] well, i suppose youd know better than me about this guys tendencies... AZK said hes pretty good, so i dont think he makes that post oak bluff on the river w/ a busted hand, but maybe. i talked to AZK about this on AIM, and i liked the way he played the first three streets. i could see pushing the turn, there has got to be a decent chance hes hoping u do just that and has a set. when the guy bets only a dime on the end, i put him on AT and go all in. i think a good plyr will also be laying down a set sometimes. its not that hard to put ari on a straight here.
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#5
11-21-2005, 02:34 AM
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Re: Interesting 10/25 hand against a solid player.
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when the guy bets only a dime on the end, i put him on AT and go all in. i think a good plyr will also be laying down a set sometimes. its not that hard to put ari on a straight here. [/ QUOTE ] Yea, i like this play much better against an unknown "good player" (as he may have very well been to AZK)....But John is very good at making strong reads and calling with marginal holdings. Especially getting 2.5-1. He's definitely one of the top 3 players that regularly plays the foxwoods NL games and you can certainly make an argument that he's the best. Given AZK's at the time tight image, i think john might get off an overpair or A-10 (although i think these are both unlikely holdings). But overall, i think this move is definitely -EV against John
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11-21-2005, 04:24 AM
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Re: Interesting 10/25 hand against a solid player.
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EP opens for 75 bunch of calls I call Flop T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] PFR checks, weird guy bets 100, bad player calls 100, I make it 700 (which is near potsized), Jon cold calls out of the SB after checking (WTF?) everyone folds [/ QUOTE ] diamond: I never played in this game but do good players really check a set and then call from sb encouraging a big field to overcall with straight and flush draws on the flop. I think he's cautiouslly playing bottom two , or maybe A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K/Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] deciding to play the draw with a bit of deception and a weak river bluff to make you think he wants a call?
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#9
11-21-2005, 09:42 PM
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Re: Interesting 10/25 hand against a solid player.
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I think he has big diamonds [/ QUOTE ] I think his river bet was a blocking bet hoping you had J9 or 56 or QJ of diamonds, something like that. Your line looks a lot like what you have. I don't think he is folding a better hand here.
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