Action-packed suited connector

[Richard Berg]

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1) The PFR was a poster, and therefore a bit less likely to auto-continuation bet the flop
2) I'd rather trap the most people in this hand that I can, since I have top pair and a straight draw. I don't need to clean up any outs, and it does little good to try to c/r and get this heads up.

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That's reasonable. If you had A7 I think c/r would be the clear choice, but since you have no kicker it's more likely you need to make 2 pair or better even if you got it heads up. Nice.

You're right, MP1 could have a set. Guess it's not any more horribly played than the hands I listed.

[W. Deranged]

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why no c/r on the flop.

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2 reasons.

1) The PFR was a poster, and therefore a bit less likely to auto-continuation bet the flop
2) I'd rather trap the most people in this hand that I can, since I have top pair and a straight draw. I don't need to clean up any outs, and it does little good to try to c/r and get this heads up.

I may be wrong, but this is what I was thinking when I bet the flop. UTG's raise surprised me, so I decided to just call and see the turn.

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I like a flop check-raise. You do have a gutshot, but the way you'll usually win this hand (when you do) is your 7 holding up, and since your hand is very vulnerable the value of forcing out overcards and such seems very high here.

So I like a flop check-raise.

I also don't know how I feel about the turn. Your three-bet seems pretty likely to force out the original turn bettor, who you may well have beat, and get the hand heads-up with someone who you are chopping with or losing to.

I kind of prefer calling the two on the turn and donking the river, calling a raise.

[istewart]

Flop check/raise seems pretty standard here to me. Betting out is not "trapping the field" as much as giving sweet odds to hands like QJ or whatever.

[bakku]

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why no c/r on the flop.

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2 reasons.

1) The PFR was a poster, and therefore a bit less likely to auto-continuation bet the flop

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i dont see how the PFR being a poster has to do with his likeliness to continuation bet the flop

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2) I'd rather trap the most people in this hand that I can, since I have top pair and a straight draw. I don't need to clean up any outs, and it does little good to try to c/r and get this heads up.

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a pair of 7's with a gutshot isnt exactly a strong hand. i'm definitely not trying to trap the whole field on this flop. there's also a flush draw on the board. cleaning up outs and/or getting it HU in this hand would actually be really awesome

[private joker]

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a pair of 7's with a gutshot isnt exactly a strong hand. i'm definitely not trying to trap the whole field on this flop. there's also a flush draw on the board. cleaning up outs and/or getting it HU in this hand would actually be really awesome

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Agreed.

[Nick C]

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why no c/r on the flop. it seems standard.

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One thing I've noticed about 5/10 (as opposed to, say, 3/6) is that the flop action after a preflop raise is not as predictable.

This is a flop the PFR might not bet, versus four opponents. He also might not get the chance to check behind. If Hero checks, it's hard to anticipate what will happen after that.

[private joker]

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If Hero checks, it's hard to anticipate what will happen after that.

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Exactly. It's rare to just see everyone check to the raiser and the raiser auto-betting, and a few people peeling.

Also, if I check I could see it 2 back to me and not really know where I stand.

[Richard Berg]

I agree, we should be looking to c/r the flop given the position of the PFR. Lucky for us UTG popped it, but then nobody folds. You have to assume lots of people have an OESD.

Turn, I like the aggression to try to fold T's. If you can fold a 9 and reduce the number of people you're splitting with, even better.

Same thing on the river. MP1 probably had a 4 or T, but if betting into his cap made him give up a 9, awesome. MP3 thinks the same thing, but CO isn't folding, so when it's back to you it's time to close the action. Nicely done.

[Nick C]

Hmm. Well, checkraising the flop would be a good plan if we could rely on the action going check, check, check, check, auto-bet. But we can't. Someone may interfere, and we can't count on an auto-bet even if everyone does check to the raiser. So if we get to checkraise the PFR, the chances are better than they would be on a different flop in a less multiway hand that we're up against an overpair.

I like the bet, I guess. It won't protect your hand, though (and I think it's going to be very hard to protect your draw), unless you get raised pretty quickly, but there should be some value in it, and we don't want this getting checked through.

So you bet, UTG immediately raises, and then everyone cold-calls. What the hell is going on?

I think I might lead the turn, just because 4-straight boards are so scary, but it doesn't really surprise me when MP1 wakes up. You gotta figure someone will. But now CO is raising again. What does he have, 99? Since it's probably not T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], following through with the check/3-bet seems okay to me. We'd rather not fold someone who's drawing dead, but someone who's doing that will probably give up anyway, and we might as well charge flush draws (and maybe someone will stubbornly hang on with 44).

I don't like it when MP1 caps, but I would love it if I knew in advance that he was going to fold the river. I guess he was pumping his full-house/quads draw on the turn?

I don't know what MP3 is doing on the river. I guess he was slowplaying, hopefully on the flop rather than the turn. Chances are we're not doing any better than chopping with him, though, and if this is some weird desperation river bluff-raise, you wouldn't think he'd call with it anyway. For his part, CO does appear to have a 9, though I guess something else like 88 is possible.

I don't know. Just calling MP3's raise seems okay.

What a strange hand. If I had played it, at showdown I think the only outcome that would really surprise me would be if I won outright. I'd be hoping to chop, and I'd be hoping that chop wasn't 3-way.

[jason_t]

omg you have perfect relative position to check/raise the flop.