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2 tough overpair spots
Only been playing a few minutes so no real reads, but I've been running the tables so far.
I'm still learning how to play overpairs properly multi-way. On the second hand I really wasn't aiming for a "great laydown", but both players had been pretty passive up until now so I felt I had to give them credit for something strong. FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: (7 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls. Turn: (5.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls. River: (7.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font><font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls. Final Pot: 7.50 BB ----------------------------- Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls. Flop: (17.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (13.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero folds, Button calls. River: (17.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Button calls. Final Pot: 19.25 BB |
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Re: 2 tough overpair spots
Both hands look fine. Is #1 just a bad-beat post?
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#3
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Re: 2 tough overpair spots
Raise preflop hand 1.
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Re: 2 tough overpair spots
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Raise preflop hand 1. [/ QUOTE ] And hand 2 feels icky. I don't like something about it. When you fold, I don't see how you think they necessarily have you beat. QQ, JJ, the other KK, and a spade AK all seem likely. |
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Re: 2 tough overpair spots
Missed the lack of raise in hand #1. Bad.
Hand 2, nobody's checkraising the turn with AKs at 2/4. If it were heads up you could call down and hope to see QQ, but with two villians it's time to exit. |
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Re: 2 tough overpair spots
Gotta pfr in hand 1.
I'd rather cap the flop in hand 2, since I don't give Button credit for AA/TT yet. edit: After a closer look at the combinatrix, I think a flop call in hand 2 is ok. |
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Re: 2 tough overpair spots
I didn't raise hand 1 because I didn't think I had any shot at thinning the field, and acting out of position in the family pot I thought I'd conceal the hand and go for a set or c/r undercards.
First hand he had Q9. Second hand I really didn't know where I was at or how many outs I could count facing 2 cold. UTG really looked like a set to me. UTG had 54, other guy had QQ. |
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Re: 2 tough overpair spots
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I didn't raise hand 1 because I didn't think I had any shot at thinning the field, and acting out of position in the family pot I thought I'd conceal the hand and go for a set or c/r undercards. [/ QUOTE ] You don't need to thin the field here. You're likely enough to flop undercards or a set that it's an easy raise for value. Planning to go for a check-raise isn't a great idea because you have no idea where a bet will come from. You'll risk trapping the field when you want to blow them out and blowing them out when you want to trap them. With 7 people in, you give up too much value to account for the deception value you get. |
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