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Standard fold here?
By way of edit: This is the 4th hand of the tournament. First 2 hands were family pots with 5-6 limpers. Haven't seen much aggression yet, but no reads on the table at all.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx UTG+1 (t1480) Hero (t1640) MP2 (t1630) CO (t1580) Button (t1450) SB (t1260) BB (t1000) UTG (t1960) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t240</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t1480</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: t1750 -Rizen |
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Re: Standard fold here?
i'm.. probably calling there. what buyin is it? JJ and AK do that more than AA/KK do.
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Re: Standard fold here?
[ QUOTE ]
i'm.. probably calling there. what buyin is it? JJ and AK do that more than AA/KK do. [/ QUOTE ] This is the 150+12 on Stars. -Rizen |
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Re: Standard fold here?
I'm not that anxious to get myself in a coinflip or worse...I'd fold
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Re: Standard fold here?
I don't if I would say it's 'standard', but I do think it's a good fold. Close, but a good lay down.
Exit, I'm a little surprised you call here if you fold the Queens in the hypothetical from Matt's Cardplayer article. equity (%) win (%) / tie (%) Hand 1: 47.3659 % [ 00.46 00.02 ] { QdQc } Hand 2: 52.6341 % [ 00.51 00.02 ] { AA-JJ, AKs, AKo } |
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Re: Standard fold here?
in the Matt Matros article there wasn't 480 in the pot already.
we're getting 1.4:1 here. Big difference. edit: i should say, my problem with the mattros hand isn't that we're only 53% to win, but that theres nothing in the pot already. edit 2: In your equity calculation, you have it so AA is just as likely as JJ, and i dont think thats the case. So the equity is even more in favor of QQ. (plus the dead moneY) |
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Re: Standard fold here?
I'm never reraising with QQ in this spot and folding to a push. Although I will flat call with it sometimes.
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Re: Standard fold here?
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in the Matt Matros article there wasn't 480 in the pot already. we're getting 1.4:1 here. Big difference. edit: i should say, my problem with the mattros hand isn't that we're only 53% to win, but that theres nothing in the pot already. edit 2: In your equity calculation, you have it so AA is just as likely as JJ, and i dont think thats the case. So the equity is even more in favor of QQ. (plus the dead moneY) [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. Also, theres a big difference in the article descibes a situation in a deep stack tournament. But do those things compensate for the fact that in the article we *know* the villain has AK, whereas here we can't be sure. I'm just not so sure that in a > 100$ MTT, a player who we know nothing about is raising 4 BBs UTG and pushing to a solid raise and therefore most likely is holding AK? The JJ+/AK range is the best I can figure. |
#9
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Re: Standard fold here?
I think I take the gamble here.
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Re: Standard fold here?
I don't laydown this hand in a Stars tournament. The blinds move so effing fast I am willing to take what looks like a coinflip against his hand ranges.
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