Watching this years WSOP the final straw.

[Roman]

I usually use this move before a final table because the players at a final table are generally stronger, but it is not at all uncommon as you may think even on a FT. Maybe this is not common amongst 2+2ers, but there are undeniable advantages of openlimping on certain tables/vs certain opponents.

[BobboFitos]

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I usually use this move before a final table because the players at a final table are generally stronger, but it is not at all uncommon as you may think even on a FT. Maybe this is not common amongst 2+2ers, but there are undeniable advantages of openlimping on certain tables/vs certain opponents.

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Ok, what are those advantages. Time to defend that position. Im here for learning.

[turnipmonster]

22 against a chronic reraiser?

[Roman]

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I didn't think anyone that'd make final table woudl still open limp a hand like KJo

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**sigh** your post reeks of a cashgame player who knows very little but still likes to assume things about MTTs. There are many good reasons to limp with a hand like KJo, especially in CO. This is a play a lot of good tournament players would make on ocassion if the situation is right.

[Felix_Nietsche]

but the donkfest that was this year's WSOP was more than enough to persuade me that the fields are now bad enough to justify the high entry fees.
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Exactly..........Aaron Kantor had 7 gold horseshoes up his ass. His maniac semi-bluff style became very predictable. Only luck allowed him to finish as high as he did.

I felt sorry for Black. He played well and yet his monster stack got donked away. Barch played well and Hachem played well. I wasn't that impressed w/ the runner-up. The annoucers said he was the 5th best in his home game. My reaction was, "That High!".

[Neurotoxin]

Black would have won the whole thing if he hadn't blown that set of 5s vs Kanter. He was so petrified of a draw that he just basically moved all in and did all he could to keep Kanter from calling. Loser poker.


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I felt sorry for Black. He played well and yet his monster stack got donked away. Barch played well and Hachem played well. I wasn't that impressed w/ the runner-up. The annoucers said he was the 5th best in his home game. My reaction was, "That High!".

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[IHateCats]

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Black would have won the whole thing if he hadn't blown that set of 5s vs Kanter. He was so petrified of a draw that he just basically moved all in and did all he could to keep Kanter from calling. Loser poker.



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I felt sorry for Black. He played well and yet his monster stack got donked away. Barch played well and Hachem played well. I wasn't that impressed w/ the runner-up. The annoucers said he was the 5th best in his home game. My reaction was, "That High!".

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What he said.

[LuvDemNutz]

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I've been a cash game specialist since I started playing holdem but the donkfest that was this year's WSOP was more than enough to persuade me that the fields are now bad enough to justify the high entry fees.


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The players are certainly bad but with a field of 5600+ it's pretty much a lottery.

[IHateCats]

Obviously I'm aware of this but the cash games that week must be wild as well so a few weeks are highly unlikley to be a total waste of time, especially since most tourney players can't play a 200x+ BB stack to save their lives. The overall level of play however seems to dropping faster than the learning curve of the average player is rising, particularly for the ME.

Getting at the final table is the problem.