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Old 11-12-2005, 09:34 PM
SuitedSixes SuitedSixes is offline
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Default Re: Numbers every poker player should know

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The inaccurate numbers were taken from King Yao's book "Weighing the Odds in Hold'em Poker."

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Waahhh! I have no idea of King Yao's intent with those numbers. That book is sitting next in my pile just below Psychology of Poker. That being said, those numbers ignore those flops that contain an over but also one of your own cards giving you a set. Personally I like having a set. You might not.
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It's a good book if you are concerned with trivial matters like how math applies to hold 'em poker.

[/ QUOTE ] Honestly, what's the point of this reaction when somebody is attempting to point out a not insignificant oversight to your original post/point? If you don't think that excluding those cases where you hit a set should be excluded from that list for functional purposes then I wonder if you really are "concerned with trivial matters like how math applies to hold 'em poker."

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What did the OP have to do with flopping a set (which is 11.8%)? The original list was only the % of time that the flop will not bring an overcard.

How this whole firestorm began with eastbay saying it's not important is beyond me. It's not important, but useful. I, obviously, made a huge mistake by using the word "should." I clearly should have used the phrase "may like to."

Edit: Why the hell does this thread over 1300 views?
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Old 11-12-2005, 10:17 PM
SlackerMcFly SlackerMcFly is offline
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Default Re: Numbers every poker player should know

This ought to be good for another 5 views....

Sixes spends $50 ($25 bounty + Barnes and Noble) to offer readers an interesting topic and something to think about.

And gets flamed for doing so. Nice.

A lot of people might expect an entertaining and off-topic post by the "usual suspects". I'm proud to be among both groups. Thus the number of views.

Too bad that the percentages weren't tied to inane stuff like "Yugo gets laid 2.04% of the time he dates". That would have produced no flameage and some entertainment.

Instead, a respected poster and player presents a topic that offers an opportunity for other players to learn, have a little discussion and perhaps get an answer "right" for profit.

Under these circumstances, who would want to post anything but "Fold KK pre-flop?" or "OT Hampster picture"?

Luck is the residue of design. You get luckier the more you know. The OP was trying to help y'all get more knowledge and share some of what he has learned. Take it for what it's worth. If it is worth nothing to you, perhaps you are "unlucky".

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Old 11-12-2005, 10:27 PM
skipperbob skipperbob is offline
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Default Re: Numbers every poker player should know

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inane stuff like "Yugo gets laid 2.04% of the time he dates".

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"Inane" = What you call somebody who takes the $1 "bonus" bet when playing a (+)EV game like Letit'Ride

FWIW...I noticed that the list of %'s were asymptotically approaching zero; I therefore assumed that the #'s represented the chance (stated as a percentage) that 66's was giving himself of getting laid the closer he actually was getting to "Date Night" [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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