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Old 11-10-2005, 12:37 AM
Scruff Scruff is offline
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Default Re: AA34 ds hand

Heh, okay!

MP1 called the 300.

Okay, now I’m scared. She could be calling with a naked A2, since she’s a bad player, but something like QQ is still scaring me. But if she had QQ, she would have repotted me on the flop, I’m sure of it, she’s aggressive. So while I’m scared, I think this is a desperation A2 call – I mean why not fire in your last $92 if you are going to call $300 if you have any hand at all, why try to save that? She knows I’ll call it right now, so there’s no point in waiting for the river. Anyway, even if I’m behind, I still have 3 nut low outs assuming she has A2 and I have the nut flush draw in addition to my overpair.

Pot is now $900 (180 bets)

RIVER [board cards 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]

Decent, but scary card. Could she have come this whole way with something like A2T – absolutely. I’m petrified, but I only have $112 left and the pot is 900 at this point. So obviously my only shot is . . .

Hero bets $112 and is all-in, MP1 folds.

WHAT?????? Okay that’s a bad bet, not bad, awful, right? I only have a pair of aces and obviously that’s not enough of a bet that she would fold if she had ANYTHING at all. I should have checked, and let her bluff at it if I’m going to commit those chips anyway. I can’t imagine she had something like A2KQ, A2KJ, A285 etc. and didn’t call there. Who knows maybe she did and it won me the hand, but I’d doubt it. That bet was a case of not having enough time to think it through clearly – adrenaline flows in 1K pots! Let me know what you guys think of that.

For a new player, I'd say let this be a gigantic lesson as to why you don’t go chasing naked lows heads up on the turn when a boatload of money is going into the pot and the raiser has shown nothing but strength, potting it every single opportunity.

Switching roles, what if she had A267, should she have called the turn, obviously not knowing what I have? I think a flop call is very reasonable with A267, right? But the turn, I'd lean fold, but I'm curious to see what the others here think - is that a hand that would have justified the $300 turn call?
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Old 11-10-2005, 12:12 PM
Chamonyx Chamonyx is offline
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Default Re: AA34 ds hand

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Heh, okay!


Hero bets $112 and is all-in, MP1 folds.

WHAT?????? Okay that’s a bad bet, not bad, awful, right?

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Wrong. If you know that you will call if she bets then you might as well bet out just in case she panics and folds. If you check/call then you have only one way to win.
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:24 PM
emptyshell emptyshell is offline
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Default Re: AA34 ds hand

The bet at the end is not a big deal, obviously. Maybe 10% of the time he folds his nut low draw + 2 pair to it. A larger percent of the time he'll check-behind on the river with two pair, saving you $100. The likelihood of such a small bluff into such a large pot is probably another 10%. I have won pots with these types of post-oak bluffs when I've been betting low draw + middle pair all the way to the river and miss. All in all, you probably gain more by checking.
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