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Old 11-09-2005, 01:08 PM
krimson krimson is offline
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It looks so spewey but looking at it piece by piece seems to make sense. We can put MP1 on a flush or straight draw, or underpair or something of that sort. BB looks to have 99,JJ-KK. We're likely behind the BB, but the ace is perfect to represent AT. I'd need to be at the table to actually have a feel for whether he would fold or not with QQ/KK.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:25 PM
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If you had position on the guy and were planning on taking your T to showdown I'd love this. As is, however, he'd better like finding reasons to fold. Also, unless the guy's out of line, you can get away from your hand on the turn.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:31 PM
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This is a great squeeze play.

When I first looked at it, I thought it was spewing, but you are committed to call given the pot size and the extra BB has sufficient folding+drawing equity.
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:01 AM
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but you are committed to call given the pot size and the extra BB has sufficient folding+drawing equity.

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Ok, I understand what you mean behind odds to call. I also understand the theory behind this hand, however, how do you KNOW it has enough folding equity?
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:13 AM
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Looks fine against someone who is unimaginative but any good/decent player would call down here imo.
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:25 AM
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Looks fine against someone who is unimaginative but any good/decent player would call down here imo.

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i agree
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:31 AM
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Looks fine against someone who is unimaginative but any good/decent player would call down here imo.

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i agree

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You'd call the turn with KK-JJ in BB's position?
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:39 AM
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A good majority of the time yes, you limped pf and CRed twice on a draw heavy board...shady enough that Im calling down.
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:40 AM
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depends, but i would definitely sometimes fold it, certainly often enough to show immediate profit with a 1BB investment. i also fold more than most people here it seems. still though your play looks a little suspect.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:26 PM
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I can't think of a single player who would fold JJ-KK against me here. So I wouldn't ever make this play. (maybe I just play a lot of fish, or I have a loose table image, who knows...)
plus, half the time the random cold calling player will have A3 or something rediculous like that.
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