"Official" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final 27

[Dynasty]

Greg Raymer Eliminated in 25th Place ($304,680)

Hand 23 - Andrew Black has the button in seat 8, Alsancak raises, and Raymer calls from the big blind. The flop comes Kh-Kc-7c, Raymer moves all in, and Alsancak calls. Raymer shows Ac-9h, and Alsancak has pocket fives (5d-5c). Raymer needs to catch a nine, an ace, or running clubs to stay alive. The turn card is the Kd, and Raymer needs to catch a seven, a nine, a king, or an ace to stay alive. The river card is the 2s, and Greg Raymer is eliminated in 25th place, earning $304,680.

The entire crowd of spectators, media, and even members of the ESPN crew give Raymer a standing ovation as he is eliminated in his quest to repeat as the World Series of Poker champion.

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Well done mr. raymer

[gobboboy]

Greg, is this what you saw when he flipped up his QJh?



Because I think that's what I saw.

[Aces McGee]

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Greg Raymer Eliminated in 25th Place ($304,680)

Hand 23 - Andrew Black has the button in seat 8, Alsancak raises, and Raymer calls from the big blind. The flop comes Kh-Kc-7c, Raymer moves all in, and Alsancak calls. Raymer shows Ac-9h, and Alsancak has pocket fives (5d-5c). Raymer needs to catch a nine, an ace, or running clubs to stay alive. The turn card is the Kd, and Raymer needs to catch a seven, a nine, a king, or an ace to stay alive. The river card is the 2s, and Greg Raymer is eliminated in 25th place, earning $304,680.

The entire crowd of spectators, media, and even members of the ESPN crew give Raymer a standing ovation as he is eliminated in his quest to repeat as the World Series of Poker champion.

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I know almost nothing about NL tournament strategy, so hopefully someone will indulge me: was Greg's play here standard?

It seemed to me that he was essentially pot-committed when he called preflop, and that he was going all in no matter what the flop. By calling, he lets Alsancak see the flop and evaluate from there.

In other words, if it was obvious to me, of all people, that Greg would be pushing on any flop (and maybe I'm wrong about that), then wouldn't it have been obvious to Alsancak, as well? And if that's the case, isn't it better to make Alsancak make the tough decision preflop, when he has less information?

Thanks in advance for setting me straight.

-McGee

[gobboboy]

This is a standard stop and go play. He is committed to call preflop no matter what, and if greg knows the money is getting in no matter what then why not give himself the slightest possibility of getting his opponent to fold on the flop when overcards appear? The paired board was pretty bad. If the flop had come KQ7 instead of KK7 I think he would've folded.

[Aces McGee]

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This is a standard stop and go play. He is committed to call preflop no matter what, and if greg knows the money is getting in no matter what then why not give himself the slightest possibility of getting his opponent to fold on the flop when overcards appear? The paired board was pretty bad. If the flop had come KQ7 instead of KK7 I think he would've folded.

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I see. So given Alsancak's range of hands and given all possible flops, he's more likely to fold on the flop than he would preflop?

-McGee

[masse75]

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Greg Raymer Eliminated in 25th Place ($304,680)

Hand 23 - Andrew Black has the button in seat 8, Alsancak raises, and Raymer calls from the big blind. The flop comes Kh-Kc-7c, Raymer moves all in, and Alsancak calls. Raymer shows Ac-9h, and Alsancak has pocket fives (5d-5c). Raymer needs to catch a nine, an ace, or running clubs to stay alive. The turn card is the Kd, and Raymer needs to catch a seven, a nine, a king, or an ace to stay alive. The river card is the 2s, and Greg Raymer is eliminated in 25th place, earning $304,680.

The entire crowd of spectators, media, and even members of the ESPN crew give Raymer a standing ovation as he is eliminated in his quest to repeat as the World Series of Poker champion.

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Excuse me, doesn't a 7 on the turn counterfeit the 5's?