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2 things most people have failed to acknowledge. 1. An ace may only have 4 outs, but he has 2 chances to make those outs. The turn and the river. He is ~5:1 to win this pot on the flop. 2. His chances don't diminish on the turn. Any turn card gives the Ace another 3 outs with runner-runner boat. He is now 5.6:1 to win the pot. EDIT: It doesn't matter what the turn card is (a 2,3,4 pairing still gives villian a bigger boat). [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this really has any bearing on whether we should slowplay or not. We are never folding another ace, so the question becomes how do we get the most $$$ in the pot. |
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I would have played this the same way, however I wouldn't have been caught shortstacked. This is exactly the reason why you always have enough money at the table.
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Supposedly not having enough money at the table to cap every street is better. thread [/ QUOTE ] Not running out of money during a hand is better, period, dot, end of discussion, site any reference you want. Running out of money when you have a winning hand is a catastrophe. |
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[ QUOTE ] Supposedly not having enough money at the table to cap every street is better. thread [/ QUOTE ] Not running out of money during a hand is better, period, dot, end of discussion, site any reference you want. Running out of money when you have a winning hand is a catastrophe. [/ QUOTE ] read the thread....... |
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[ QUOTE ] 2 things most people have failed to acknowledge. 1. An ace may only have 4 outs, but he has 2 chances to make those outs. The turn and the river. He is ~5:1 to win this pot on the flop. 2. His chances don't diminish on the turn. Any turn card gives the Ace another 3 outs with runner-runner boat. He is now 5.6:1 to win the pot. EDIT: It doesn't matter what the turn card is (a 2,3,4 pairing still gives villian a bigger boat). [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this really has any bearing on whether we should slowplay or not. We are never folding another ace, so the question becomes how do we get the most $$$ in the pot. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this answer really has any bearing on whether we should slowplay or not. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Supposedly not having enough money at the table to cap every street is better. thread [/ QUOTE ] Not running out of money during a hand is better, period, dot, end of discussion, site any reference you want. Running out of money when you have a winning hand is a catastrophe. [/ QUOTE ] read the thread....... [/ QUOTE ] I've read every word, and anyone who advocates short stacking is wrong and can just like it. If I flop AAK with AA and get all in on the turn, I may as well make icicles in my freezer so I can jam them in my eyes. |
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Slowplaying this flop sucks because the same hands that aren't folding to villain's single bet are also not folding to your two (flush draw, 3 of a kind). In other words, there are several very specific holdings that stick around here to pay you off, and you might as well get value out of them if they are out.
I would also like to add that a double ace or king flop is always difficult to slow play for value because your coming to life on later streets teleports the hell out of your hand. |
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raise flop. going for overcall is a mistake there.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 2 things most people have failed to acknowledge. 1. An ace may only have 4 outs, but he has 2 chances to make those outs. The turn and the river. He is ~5:1 to win this pot on the flop. 2. His chances don't diminish on the turn. Any turn card gives the Ace another 3 outs with runner-runner boat. He is now 5.6:1 to win the pot. EDIT: It doesn't matter what the turn card is (a 2,3,4 pairing still gives villian a bigger boat). [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this really has any bearing on whether we should slowplay or not. We are never folding another ace, so the question becomes how do we get the most $$$ in the pot. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this answer really has any bearing on whether we should slowplay or not. [/ QUOTE ] Jesus, I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything. |
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