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Re: AK oddity
Interesting, I suspected we're a small favorite so I fired up pokerstove and got shocked. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
1,417,787,712 games 1.982 secs 715,331,842 games/sec Board: Dead: equity (%) win (%) / tie (%) Hand 1: 50.1287 % [ 00.43 00.07 ] { AA-77, AKs-AJs, KQs, AKo-AQo } Hand 2: 49.8713 % [ 00.43 00.07 ] { AKo } |
#22
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Re: AK oddity
i think capping decreases our implied odds against 99, TT, JJ, and maybe QQ. like say we get an A or K high flop after we cap before the flop. i feel like he will find folds here much more often than if we call the preflop 3-bet and just lead out on these same flops. it may even cause him to spew chips on these same flops (thinking - "would this guy really bet into me if he actually had it?")
i really hate being forced into leading any flop just because i capped preflop, and then to be forced to make another slim call when he raises my flop bet (because now the pot is like 12 small bets back to me). |
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Re: AK oddity
[ QUOTE ]
Interesting, I suspected we're a small favorite so I fired up pokerstove and got shocked. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] 1,417,787,712 games 1.982 secs 715,331,842 games/sec Board: Dead: equity (%) win (%) / tie (%) Hand 1: 50.1287 % [ 00.43 00.07 ] { AA-77, AKs-AJs, KQs, AKo-AQo } Hand 2: 49.8713 % [ 00.43 00.07 ] { AKo } [/ QUOTE ] This range of hands is likely way too large as well, given villain's small, albeit statistically unproven, PFR. |
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Re: AK oddity
These are good points but I don't really mind having to lead flops heads-up that much. Oftentimes seems to play itself in this game. Another good thing about capping preflop is folding out 99 on QJ boards, etc, but I can also see your point about waiting.
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Re: AK oddity
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We're OOP. He's quite tight, espeically by 6 max standards. He's probably positionally aware, and he's in MP, nto button or a blind (especially SB). I don't think we're a big enough favorite against his range, especially OOP, to want to cap. There are a lot of players I will cap this against, and if there was a moran who called 3 cold in the pot paying me off, too, I'd be more inclined to cap. [/ QUOTE ] 15% raise is decently high for 6-max. If you aren't capping this preflop, are you going to showdown on a rags flop? |
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Re: AK oddity
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] We're OOP. He's quite tight, espeically by 6 max standards. He's probably positionally aware, and he's in MP, nto button or a blind (especially SB). I don't think we're a big enough favorite against his range, especially OOP, to want to cap. There are a lot of players I will cap this against, and if there was a moran who called 3 cold in the pot paying me off, too, I'd be more inclined to cap. [/ QUOTE ] 15% raise is decently high for 6-max. If you aren't capping this preflop, are you going to showdown on a rags flop? [/ QUOTE ] c/r flop, bet turn to try and fold another AK. If he 3bets flop, call and c/f turn UI. If he raises turn, fold. If he calls flop and turn, c/c or c/f river. I prob c/f. |
#27
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Re: AKo hand
As for the hand, I really like the flop bet. He will often raise here with a weaker Ace in which case you can either call and c/r the turn or just go ahead and 3-bet. I prefer c/r though for the times he's got Ts - Ks.
The turn 3-bet is fine .. you're either splitting or vastly ahead. Once in a blue moon he's got AA but that's not even worth worrying about at this point. Yeah, checking this river is fine only because it's a Q though. |
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Re: AK oddity
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] We're OOP. He's quite tight, espeically by 6 max standards. He's probably positionally aware, and he's in MP, nto button or a blind (especially SB). I don't think we're a big enough favorite against his range, especially OOP, to want to cap. There are a lot of players I will cap this against, and if there was a moran who called 3 cold in the pot paying me off, too, I'd be more inclined to cap. [/ QUOTE ] 15% raise is decently high for 6-max. If you aren't capping this preflop, are you going to showdown on a rags flop? [/ QUOTE ] c/r flop, bet turn to try and fold another AK. If he 3bets flop, call and c/f turn UI. If he raises turn, fold. If he calls flop and turn, c/c or c/f river. I prob c/f. [/ QUOTE ] I like it. Also, I'm pretty surprised at those pokerstove numbers. Looks like I'll be playing my AKo OOP against a 3-bet differently [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] |
#29
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Re: AKo hand
mebbe cap pre-flop with AKs against the thinker, but not AKo
eh yeah, checkraise that flop. although if it misses the thinker, he may check behind. his stop & go is crazy. showdown time..let's see your AA the check/call is good if he's been bluffing. You may just fold him if you bet out. You need to see his cards, as you said he hasn't shown down yet. I dunno.. |
#30
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Re: AKo hand
Cap preflop.
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