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Flopping the 3rd nut flush...
...Well the 4th really. NL $100. Only 4 hand at the table and no stats/reads on anybody.
I have $135, villain has me covered. 3 limpers to me in the C/O I call w/J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], button calls, sb completes, bb checks flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Blinds check, UTG limper bets $4, I raise to $14, button pushes, UTG thinks forever and announces he's laying down a monster and folds...and I...call. |
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Re: Flopping the 3rd nut flush...
easy call for me
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Re: Flopping the 3rd nut flush...
Ive seen all sorts of people limp in with KTs and even K9s. I think you're beat. Even if you arent beat, if he has the K or Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] you still might lose. I'd fold.
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Re: Flopping the 3rd nut flush...
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Ive seen all sorts of people limp in with KTs and even K9s. I think you're beat. Even if you arent beat, if he has the K or Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] you still might lose. I'd fold. [/ QUOTE ] This is terrible advice. Unless you have a serious read on pusher, this is an easy call. -T |
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Re: Flopping the 3rd nut flush...
It wasnt advice. Its an opinion based on my playstyle and expreience. If you figure, there is what... about $20 in the pot - Im not pushing 4x that on a bluff.
I'll be the first to admit though, I am not the most agressive player in the world. I tend to think in terms of money won/lost still. |
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Re: Flopping the 3rd nut flush...
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It wasnt advice. Its an opinion based on my playstyle and expreience. If you figure, there is what... about $20 in the pot - Im not pushing 4x that on a bluff. I'll be the first to admit though, I am not the most agressive player in the world. I tend to think in terms of money won/lost still. [/ QUOTE ] FWIW, anything you post regarding a hand here is pretty much advice. Saying "I'd fold there b/c..." is advice. Advice is "opinion based on...experience", no? Regardless, I expect a baby flush to push this more than the nut flush. Also, I would expect a push from lots of other hands (sets, 2pair, pair+NFD), and I will gladly call those hands. Come on, saying "he might have a K or Q of spades, and you might lose anyways" is bad. You know that. -T |
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Re: Flopping the 3rd nut flush...
If he had the nut flush it seems he might show some restraint and not push right away. Yes you re-raise the re-raise but not so much that you make it easy for a lower flush to drop. There are 2 more streets to get the money in, this does seem a little strange.
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Re: Flopping the 3rd nut flush...
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FWIW, anything you post regarding a hand here is pretty much advice. Saying "I'd fold there b/c..." is advice. Advice is "opinion based on...experience", no? Regardless, I expect a baby flush to push this more than the nut flush. Also, I would expect a push from lots of other hands (sets, 2pair, pair+NFD), and I will gladly call those hands. Come on, saying "he might have a K or Q of spades, and you might lose anyways" is bad. You know that. -T [/ QUOTE ] Fair enough. I dont mind being wrong if someone explains to me why I am. After all, thats why we're here right? SO now that I think about it, you're right. If I have the nut flush and just got raised, why not call and see what else I can get out of him. A push is as likely to be folded, as not. |
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Re: Flopping the 3rd nut flush...
Yeah - im seeing that now.
I have a LONG way to go. |
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Re: Flopping the 3rd nut flush...
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Yeah - im seeing that now. I have a LONG way to go. [/ QUOTE ] We all have a long way to go, or we'd be playing 50/100NL, not .5/1NL. Working through these things is helpful to everyone. Keep posting and asking questions, and if you are wrong, someone will point it out. No big deal. -T P.S. I am wrong a fair amount too, but usually more when I am actually playing. Having five minutes to think about a hand makes it much easier. |
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