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Plan.
Empire 5/10 short
Button opens (19/6/1.6 100 hands), i three bet with AhQs, bb calls(37/8/1.2 500 hands), buttons calls. Flop Qc 7d 4h bet, call, fold turn 8c bet, raise, whats my line? |
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Re: Plan.
calldown time.
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Re: Plan.
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Empire 5/10 short Button opens (19/6/1.6 100 hands), i three bet with AhQs, bb calls(37/8/1.2 500 hands), buttons calls. Flop Qc 7d 4h bet, call, fold turn 8c bet, raise, whats my line? [/ QUOTE ] Recently I've been making it a point to 3 bet in this situation. |
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Re: Plan.
if you three bet whats the plan for the rest of the hand. a couple of situations.
a/ he caps b/ he call and raises a blank c/ he calls and raises a club |
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Re: Plan.
Why not raise flop?
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Re: Plan.
He's SB. He bet.
WiteKnite |
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Re: Plan.
I like call down here.
I don't think that a flush draw is likely. Wouldn't he cap preflop with AKc. AJc or maybe Atc is possible I guess. I think that you are looking at KQ, 77, or maybe 88 here. He also could have a pocket pair like TT or 99. If he has a Queen you are definately ahead and he will bet the river anyway==>not 3 betting only loses you one big bet. If you are behind then you are drawing dead and not 3 betting saves you 2 big bets. If he has a hand like 99 or TT then not 3 betting costs you 1 or 2 bets (he may fold to 3 bet). If this guy has a clue then I would be concerned that he didn't raise the flop. If he played his hand well pf and on the flop then I have a hard time seeing how you are ahead. I have been looking for opportunities to punish semi-bluffers a lot lately. I think the fact that a str8 draw is pretty much impossible here and that the broadway card on the board is a club is very significant. |
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Re: Plan.
I take a very interesting line in these situations that I think nobody else takes. I tend to call the turn and c/r any river and fold to 3 bet. I just think that raising the turn represents such a stronger hand that players will never 3 bet you without you beat.
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Re: Plan.
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I take a very interesting line in these situations that I think nobody else takes. I tend to call the turn and c/r any river and fold to 3 bet. I just think that raising the turn represents such a stronger hand that players will never 3 bet you without you beat. [/ QUOTE ] This sounds like a great line, it also keeps him betting if he has air. |
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Re: Plan.
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I take a very interesting line in these situations that I think nobody else takes. I tend to call the turn and c/r any river and fold to 3 bet. I just think that raising the turn represents such a stronger hand that players will never 3 bet you without you beat. [/ QUOTE ] The problem with this is the "free" card you give. Half-decent opponents are fully aware of the free-showdown raise in position and I can see it being employed by the BB with almost any pair here. You allow him to catch his 5 outer and THEN you're gonna checkraise?? Even checkcalling sucks because he bets when he improves to 2 pair or whatever and checks his underpairs. Other possibilities are a draw semi-bluff which of course you want to charge. If your read is that he more or less won't raise without 2 pair or better (and I have this note for many opponents) then clearly, calling down is best or even folding river if your read is strong enough. |
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