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#1
10-12-2005, 12:51 PM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
River is close. In close situations, I usually take the conservative approach and call. This way I can sleep at night.
(However, if an overcall is close, I usually don't because I can find out what he has without calling. I don't mind making mistakes so much as I mind not knowing. Likewise, playing live, I'm less likely to call someone who likes to show bluffs not only because I can find out the info w/out calling, but also because people who like to show(off) bluffs are less likely to bluff.) 
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#2
10-12-2005, 12:48 PM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
mmm this is a really really good spot to steal and I think that's what your wondering preflop 3bettor is doing.
but I think this should be a fold because you still have the fish to act behind you on the river and there's a chance he has a smallish club if not the same straight and look him up.
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#3
10-12-2005, 01:19 PM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
how can the button not have a club? he didn't 3-bet the flop or turn on that board. I guess it's remotely possible he was waiting to raise a safe turn but it was a club. but he rarely has an overpair, and he never has overcards without a club.
also, if the cold caller and button play a lot, especially with each other, that makes it an easier fold, since he should know better than to bluff two people, including a loose one who liked his hand, on that board
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#6
10-12-2005, 01:40 PM
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Re: Results
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awesome read by me how does aces no club not 3-bet the flop? [/ QUOTE ] And why bet that river? It's a really bad river bet into 2. Krishan
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#7
10-12-2005, 01:42 PM
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Re: Results
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I folded. The river bettor had aces no club. The fish had 56 no club for a flopped straight. $2600 that could have been mine. [/ QUOTE ] If you had CR the flop, you're seeing the river, right? AND you win more than $2600. (maybe)
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#8
10-12-2005, 06:14 PM
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Re: Results
If you are going to leave the fish in the pot I think this is a perfect spot to bet the river because solid player can't raise without a club and fish will call with plenty of hands without a club. with the overcall by fish you might get solid played to fold a non A or K club.
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#9
10-12-2005, 01:39 PM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
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how can the button not have a club? [/ QUOTE ] Play enough poker and you'll see everything. I wouldn't argue the fold was wrong, but I would argue that the refusal/inability the see that his hand may possibly be good is a major flaw.
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#10
10-12-2005, 02:03 PM
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Re: 100/200 9Ts
Missed folds on all streets.
Preflop, I'm not raising with this UTG. I just don't think 109s is good enough to play five-handed. On the flop, a fold should be considered because it's unlikely one pair will be the best hand and your draw really isn't that good. On the turn, the pot may be bigger, but your hand has gone down in value. The only chance is an offsuit jack or six and that might not be good enough. On the river, you can't call with a non-nut straight and a four-flush on board. Just give this one up.
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