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Old 10-05-2005, 01:58 AM
Josh W Josh W is offline
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Default I stereotyped...and I was wrong.

This probably doesn't belong in this forum. Oh well.

I was playing in a tight 25-50 game, but a good game. Most people couldn't play very well from the blinds, which becomes key in tight games.

My opponent in this hand fit a certain stereotype. Let me clarify. Based on their appearance, age, gender, race, discussion topics, etc, I thought that they would explode at a bad beat. I had never played with this person before, but knew that they were decent, probably about break-even post-rake (which is an above average player, of course). But I knew that they were a time bomb inside. They played tight, and never seemed to bluff in a few hours of play.

Well, I openraise one off the button w/ 23d. Villain called in the SB, heads up.

Flop came J33, two hearts. Check, bet, call. Turn is Kh. Check, bet, checkraise, call. River was an offsuit 9. Bet, call.

Villain tabled black aces, and I tabled my monster (or is it monstrosity?).

Villain, stuck about 4 racks, calmly turned their cards over, and gently mucked.

I was amazed.

But then, I was saddened that I was amazed. I didn't think I stereotyped people, but it seems I do. Maybe this was the last time.

Still saddened.

Josh
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Old 10-05-2005, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: I stereotyped...and I was wrong.

i dont understand...
why didnt you reraise turn or raise the river?
???
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Old 10-05-2005, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: I stereotyped...and I was wrong.

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i dont understand...
why didnt you reraise turn or raise the river?
???

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Old 10-05-2005, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: I stereotyped...and I was wrong.

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i dont understand...
why didnt you reraise turn or raise the river?
???

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Old 10-05-2005, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: I stereotyped...and I was wrong.

not value 3 betting the turn seems kinda weak.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:10 AM
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Default Re: I stereotyped...and I was wrong.

The only hands I could beat were KJ and AA (and I didn't think about AA at the time). There were many more heart flushes than those hands.

Reread my description of my opponent....they don't bluff.

But, more importantly, reread my first sentence. I didn't post this hand as a discussion of theory.

Josh
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: I stereotyped...and I was wrong.

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i dont understand...
why didnt you reraise turn or raise the river?
???

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How many possible holdings do I beat? How many possible holdings beat me?

Now you understand.

Josh
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: I stereotyped...and I was wrong.

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i dont understand...
why didnt you reraise turn or raise the river?
???

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How many possible holdings do I beat? How many possible holdings beat me?

Now you understand.

Josh
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: I stereotyped...and I was wrong.

[ QUOTE ]
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i dont understand...
why didnt you reraise turn or raise the river?
???

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How many possible holdings do I beat? How many possible holdings beat me?

Now you understand.

Josh
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: I stereotyped...and I was wrong.

he cant have AK? and i know it was meant to be a post about something other than how you played the hand. i just didnt think that part was as interesting as you not 3 betting the turn.
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