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09-26-2005, 02:52 PM
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Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?
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Usually, though, when a guy bets the turn when an Ace comes it's a sign that he has something with which he wants you to raise. [/ QUOTE ] This in itself is worth the price of admission to this thread. Something a lot of otherwise very strong players fail to consider often enough. -James 
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09-26-2005, 03:05 PM
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Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?
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[ QUOTE ] Usually, though, when a guy bets the turn when an Ace comes it's a sign that he has something with which he wants you to raise. [/ QUOTE ] This in itself is worth the price of admission to this thread. Something a lot of otherwise very strong players fail to consider often enough. -James [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. Westley's analysis is right on too. Folding on the flop is certainly what I would do for the reasons he gave.
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09-26-2005, 03:16 PM
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Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?
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[ QUOTE ] Usually, though, when a guy bets the turn when an Ace comes it's a sign that he has something with which he wants you to raise. [/ QUOTE ] This in itself is worth the price of admission to this thread. Something a lot of otherwise very strong players fail to consider often enough. -James [/ QUOTE ] I thought about saying that, but given the loose structure of the game - it shouldnt be a big surprise for mike to hold any Axs.
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09-26-2005, 04:15 PM
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Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?
What Andy says is more applicable in spots where the guy is betting into a preflop raiser. Here, the bet by the dude on the ace turn card is of no great moment. He 3 bet the flop. He is going to bet a high percentage of the time on the turn no matter what it is unless he is against a gaggle of opponents (but here he only has 2).
I don't put much stock in the guy's turn bet. Mike simply has to read his thoughts (more than he has to read his hand) and decide whether he will fold to a turn raise given that it makes a flush. Andy, I can't seem to reply to your PM for whatever reason.
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09-26-2005, 06:47 PM
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Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?
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[ QUOTE ] Usually, though, when a guy bets the turn when an Ace comes it's a sign that he has something with which he wants you to raise. [/ QUOTE ] This in itself is worth the price of admission to this thread. Something a lot of otherwise very strong players fail to consider often enough. -James [/ QUOTE ] this is very true in those situations where you have AJ or something, the turn goes check-check, and he bets a river A, or you bet the flop and turn with AJ unimproved and he bets an A river. but here, he 3-bet the flop. it's natural to lead out. a check would appear to be a sign that he's not going away, but he just made a continuation bet in a big pot that could come with the intention of folding to a raise. it's doubtful he 3-bet the flop with a flush draw, so it's unlikely he really wants him to raise, especially considering mike played his hand like a flush draw on the flop so I don't think his bet necessarily has anything to do with the A. he had the intiative and he's continuing.
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