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Hero is on the button with A8s. 4 players limp in and 2 of them are rated as fish. Hero raises.
Standard play or spewing chips? If you raise in this spot how low with Axs do you take it? |
#2
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ATs is where it gets close (rule of thumb).
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#3
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ATs is where it gets close (rule of thumb). [/ QUOTE ] ATs isn't close, you have a big edge 4 way especially with 2 fish. I wouldn't raise with A8s though, but it's probably not a bad move. You ought to run a few sims using pokerstove to get an idea what your equity will usually be against these sort of players. I'm undecided though about A8s though. |
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Against 4 fish it's an easy raise. If they're loose [censored] pop it, mane.
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I don't raise A8x from the button unless it's folded to me, or maybe if there is one loose limper in and the blinds will fold.
A9x is something I raise more often, just because of the difference in kicker value with the 9. It's not much, but you have to draw the line somewhere. I won't raise A9x if there are 4+ limpers already in, because I'd prefer the blinds to stay in and pay my flush off when it hits. |
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I will sometimes raise with A8s from late position in an unraised pot after loose limpers, particularly in a passive game. But A8s is normally my cutoff -- I don't raise with A7s-A2s, thinking that the primary value in these hands (mostly, I mean the lower Axs, but also A8-A9s) is the potential for a nut flush, so I want to see the flop as cheaply as possible.
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If this is a mistake, it's a pretty small one. I don't mid such a raise at all, though I usually limp here. A9s I will usually raise here.
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If this is a mistake, it's a pretty small one. I don't mid such a raise at all, though I usually limp here. A9s I will usually raise here. [/ QUOTE ] |
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I would limp. I think A10s is raising but all Axs limp for me.
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What do you want out of this hand against these players? If you bump this and the blinds are loose, then you've got 14 small bets. The flop comes A-x-x. You bet your weak ace, and even though their pre-flop play was bad, they are now correctly calling with their 3-outters. You still don't know if your aces are good. I limp.
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