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Old 09-01-2005, 04:27 AM
HesseJam HesseJam is offline
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Default Re: Card Player Article: The End Is Coming

I think overall he is right but his outlook is a bit too gloomy.

It will take some time before the games toughen up but they surely will but not as tough as he might think. If they toughen up there is a chance that rake will go down if the current high rake/ high bonus frequency scheme is ineffective to attract enough fish for mediocre/good players.

I also think that a lot of the better college poker players will drop out or at least noticably decrease playing time when they take up a job.

I do not think that China will be the answer unless you are comfortable to play at a site with Chinese chat and Chinese charcters.

OTH, Poker has yet to hit continental Europe sans Scandinavia. I see much more medium term growth there than in Asia. I am a bit puzzled that it has not happened yet. Maybe English is an entry barrier?
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Old 09-01-2005, 05:09 AM
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I don't see chinese characters as an issue. Look at all the websites out there now where you can choose your language.
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Old 09-01-2005, 04:36 AM
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Have not read the article. But my opinion is one based purely on gambling in general. Poker to most, is just another form of gambling. Some like blackjack, some like roulette, some like craps, whatever. Casinos have been around a long time. In fact, I'm sure many of us have local Indian casinos now. The act or desire to gamble will never go away. In the end, it just comes down to game of choice.
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Old 09-01-2005, 04:43 AM
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The trick is to just become good enough at poker so that even when the competition gets much tougher you will still have a huge edge. I mean if you are making $300 per hour now, do you really think that in 5 years you cant even make close to $100?
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Old 09-01-2005, 04:44 AM
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Have not read the article. But my opinion is one based purely on gambling in general. Poker to most, is just another form of gambling. Some like blackjack, some like roulette, some like craps, whatever. Casinos have been around a long time. In fact, I'm sure many of us have local Indian casinos now. The act or desire to gamble will never go away. In the end, it just comes down to game of choice.

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Yep. A portion of the bad players will not leave the game, just as people continually come back to slot machines, even when they know they can't win long term. For some players the action is what makes it fun and that is enough.
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Old 09-01-2005, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: Card Player Article: The End Is Coming

if the implication is that it'll be like the "old days" again, and that poker rooms are going to close.... i say no freakin' way. live poker will remain more popular than it's been in the past as long as they show tournaments on TV. and they will continue to show the WSOP and other events on TV as long as people continue to show an interest in poker.

the only thing I can see seriously damaging the massiveness of internet poker is a sudden government interest in either taxing (or shutting down) all the money changing hands that people might not be claiming.

remember the wise words of p.t. barnum.... "there's a sucker born every minute."
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Old 09-01-2005, 05:16 AM
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There is truth to this but internet gambling IMO is not as much fun as spending time in a live casino and therefore does not have the same staying power. Sure hope I'm wrong though.
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:11 AM
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There is truth to this but internet gambling IMO is not as much fun as spending time in a live casino and therefore does not have the same staying power. Sure hope I'm wrong though.

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But it's way more accesible. That counters a lot of the "fun" part for most people.
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:57 AM
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Have not read the article. But my opinion is one based purely on gambling in general. Poker to most, is just another form of gambling. Some like blackjack, some like roulette, some like craps, whatever. Casinos have been around a long time. In fact, I'm sure many of us have local Indian casinos now. The act or desire to gamble will never go away. In the end, it just comes down to game of choice.

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winner ^

I completely agree.
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Old 09-01-2005, 09:26 AM
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And just to add, casual players that do have productive jobs are only a paycheck away from replenishing their BR, so fears of the fish pool dying off are overrated.

Society is full of -EV bets (slot machines, lotteries, etc...) and I would gander a vast majority of the players are repeat customers who don't give a rat's ass about learning, or else they wouldn't be playing those games.
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