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skill difference
I left the SNGs some weeks ago and I'm back playing a variety of 10-handed limit tables...1/2, 2/4, 3/6 and a little 5/10 (I sit when there is an open seat - no particular preference). Maybe because I'm not paying more attention to my games (I surf the net, watch TV, fool around with my girl, etc.), but I'm not seeing a very big difference in play by the other hands. I seem to make about 10-15BB/hr regardless of the table I'm playing (I'm completely comfortable with that - poker isn't my breadwinner). At what level does the table become markedly more difficult to play, or am I just a dope thinking there is some sort of grand scheme?.
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#2
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Re: skill difference
You're not winning 10-15bb/hr at any of these tables unless you're 10-15 tabling. The marked skill difference overall probably starts to happen at 3/6 online, though in all honesty most players are bad at 3/6 but just tight.
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Re: skill difference
is my math wrong...start playing at 9 with $100 at the 1/2. Close up the laptop at 11 with $120. $20 in two hours, $1BB?
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#4
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Re: skill difference
BB stands for Big Bets, so would be $2 in the 1/2 game.
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#5
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Re: skill difference
The BB is 2$ meaning you won 5BB/hour which is unsustainable. You can't figure out your winrate from a 2-hour session. :P
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#6
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Re: skill difference
You're math is wrong but you're missing the point. No one wins steadily at half the rate you think you're winning at. If you win at 1/8 of that rate playing one table you're doing well. You just had a lucky start is all.
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Re: skill difference
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start playing at 9 with $100 at the 1/2. Close up the laptop at 11 with $120. $20 in two hours, $1BB? [/ QUOTE ] This is 5BB/hr. If you're only playing a single table, you're running hot and shouldn't expect to maintain that rate. As for the difference in players, each level has more good players than the previous level. However, depending on your skill, you might not notice the difference at all levels. For instance, the .50/1 and 1/2 tables tend to have enough awful players that the introduction of a tag or two at 1/2 over .50/1 isn't all that noticeable. IMO, 3/6 is the first level where most people have read a book and at least understand basic concepts such as pot odds and position. 5/10 is the first level where most people start to understand more advanced concepts, generally associated with postflop aggression and hand reading. |
#8
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Re: skill difference
The answer would be dope...I thought BB was big blinds - my bad. Still...I don't play for much longer than two hours at a time. When (how many hands or hrs)does your win rate become statistically significant. What is a respectable rate at small stakes?
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Re: skill difference
Typically people present it as BB/100 hands. Personally I think at 1/2 you should be able to beat it 3-4BB/100 pretty easily. 2/4,3/6 I think 2BB/100 is pretty good, though some do better.
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Re: skill difference
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is my math wrong...start playing at 9 with $100 at the 1/2. Close up the laptop at 11 with $120. $20 in two hours, $1BB? [/ QUOTE ] Your one-session bb/hr would be 5bb/hr, because one bb is $2 at 1/2, and you made $10/hr. That would translate to something like 3bb/100 (hands). This is quite high, particularly for 5/10. I would venture to guess that you aren't averaging this much in the long run. A losing session brings down your average much more than you might think. In regards to your other question, yes the games do get harder at higher limits. That's not to say that you can't find easy 10/20 games, or hard 2/4 games. But if you're asking for a general trend (which I think you are, since you don't practice any table selection), I'd say we're looking at something like this, in terms of general difficulty: 1/2 << 2/4 <<<<< 3/6 < 5/10 |
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