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Preflop call.
$25 PL Omaha
Table Table 37545 (Real Money) Seat 7 is the button Total number of players : 7 Seat 5: MP ( $28.14 ) Seat 9: BB ( $28.64 ) Seat 10: UTG ( $21.82 ) Seat 7: Button ( $23.95 ) Seat 6: CO ( $24.40 ) Seat 8: SB ( $27.50 ) Seat 3: UTG+1 ( $3.90 ) SB posts small blind [$0.10]. BB posts big blind [$0.25]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Button [ 8s 8h 6h 5d ] UTG raises [$0.85]. UTG+1 folds. MP calls [$0.85]. CO calls [$0.85]. Hero calls [$0.85]. SB raises [$5.25]. BB folds. UTG calls [$4.50]. MP calls [$4.50]. CO folds. Button calls [$4.50]. Call/Raise/Fold? Good or bad call? I was thinking I was getting over 4 to 1 on my money and I was closing the action. I was 75% sure I was up against Aces. |
#2
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Re: Preflop call.
Calling the first raise is fine. Calling the 3rd one is atrocious IMO.
Even if you hit a set in this pot you won't be sure whether its top set if there is paint on the board. The size of the reraised pot promises to negate your position on the flop. You will likely be looking at an all-in or near all-in when the action gets to you on the flop. And there won't be too many boards that make you happy calling an all-in. |
#3
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Re: Preflop call.
Instead of giving an answer to this particular situation, think about the general problem of calling big raises preflop with your less-than-premium hands.
Even though you are getting 4:1 on your money, do you think you are at least 20% to win? If not, do you think you have the proper implied odds? What sort of flop are you looking to hit? Is it worth calling for 20% of your stack to see the flop? For this particular situation, I think your odds of flopping top set or nut str8 or premium draw are pretty low. I would fold here. |
#4
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Re: Preflop call.
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I would fold here. [/ QUOTE ] Joe is lying to all of you for metagame reasons. I have proof. |
#5
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Re: Preflop call.
Calling the first raise on the button is automatic.
Reraising is insane. I used to always call with these hands, but don't anymore. I think it is close. 8876 is much better as you get more playable flops. |
#6
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Re: Preflop call.
Even if you flop well with this hand, you need to be able to push weak straight / better flush draws out of the pot. Given that the SB is likely to go all in on the flop a lot of the time, you are not going to be able to do so. Unless I have a big stack and there are other big stacks involved, I would most likely fold here. I would lean towards a call with 8876 or 7889 though.
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#7
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Re: Preflop call.
Thanks for the replies guys.
I got lucky and flopped well and the sb did push on the flop. I did win but I started wondering if that really was the correct play in this situation. |
#8
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Re: Preflop call.
I don't think calling the 2nd raise preflop is terribly bad. As the OP said it closes the action and you have position in a 4-way pot.
What makes it more questionable is the shallow stacks, I'd be pretty sure that once the flop comes down and the action gets to you there will be at least 1 all-in or pot committing bet. If the stacks were deeper I'd be happier about calling this pre-flop. |
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