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Old 08-15-2005, 12:15 PM
Pokerscott Pokerscott is offline
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Default Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...

I think there is a little bit of a problem with the assumptions of this play.

To make this play you SIMULTANEOUSLY have to assume:

-The button is GOOD enough to lay down just about anything to your all in
-The button is BAD enough not to realize he is donating 400 chips to you should you decide to push all-in and adjust his raising standards accordingly.

I think you either have to decide you have a good or bad opponent, but it is a bad idea to assume you have both.

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Old 08-15-2005, 07:08 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...

[ QUOTE ]
I think there is a little bit of a problem with the assumptions of this play.

To make this play you SIMULTANEOUSLY have to assume:

-The button is GOOD enough to lay down just about anything to your all in
-The button is BAD enough not to realize he is donating 400 chips to you should you decide to push all-in and adjust his raising standards accordingly.

I think you either have to decide you have a good or bad opponent, but it is a bad idea to assume you have both.

Pokerscott

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This is an interesting point, but I am certain a lot of higher limit players are laying down here.

A different way to look at it is that he has to be tight enough to lay down yet loose enough to try to steal by miniraising. But this is a pretty typical level of tightness to have.
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