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Just sat down so no reads on anyone. What do you do on the turn (and river if you call the turn)?
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl Preflop: Hero is BB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls. Flop: (8.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls. Turn: (5.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero?? |
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i'll call that with no reads.
can't comment on river 'til i see it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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With no reads do you feel like there is an 8:1 chance he is value betting one of those many draws?
Could have been doing so on the flop and made his straight on the turn. I think you are getting enough to call and check/call on the river. |
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If you call the turn and check/call the river UI the effective odds that you are getting are about 9:2 or 4.5:1.
So I would feel inclined to fold to the turn raise here. |
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What range of hands do you think villain will raise with here? Theres two flush draws out and a striaght draw. I think this makes it a harder decision.
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i'll call that with no reads. can't comment on river 'til i see it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Ok, then assume you call the turn and something like the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] hits. Do you check/call? |
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[ QUOTE ] i'll call that with no reads. can't comment on river 'til i see it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Ok, then assume you call the turn and something like the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] hits. Do you check/call? [/ QUOTE ] i'd probably check/call anything that is a non-[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] though looking back on the hand, i can see arguments for folding the turn with a K and straight draws coming in against an unknown. the other line possible is to bet a non-[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and fold to a raise, but i never like that line HU on the river. |
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I think you are drawing dead here. I seems like he have a pair of K, a set or a straight. The best you could hope for is a semi-bluff with a open straight draw (unlikely) or a full-blown bluff (even more unliky).
Letīs say you are in front 5% of the times here. If you give this one up youīll lose 0,4 big bet. And you have to call 2 big bets to se the river. You have 4 % of hitting the Q on the river, but with the st8 draw i would say that it would only make you a winner 2% of the times. So letīs say have 6% pot equity, thatīs around 0,5 big bet. Fold the bastard. |
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I call down no matter what I think.
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If you call the turn and check/call the river UI the effective odds that you are getting are about 9:2 or 4.5:1. So I would feel inclined to fold to the turn raise here. [/ QUOTE ] yep, in theory i dont think that the villain is semibluffraising a flush draw or a straight draw or just plain bluffing often enough to make this call. but in practice i allways call and check/call the river [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] |
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