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Old 07-18-2005, 08:39 AM
DCIAce DCIAce is offline
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Default Re: Suited in small blind

He's right, Ed Miller says any two suited from SB in tight games. I think this only applies to games with 1/2 or 2/3 blind structures, though.. seems awfully loose to pay more than half an SB with 72s out of position.

Personally, I'm up 0.06BB/hand* with suited cards that aren't connectors, aces, or 2xbroadways out of the SB, with a VPIP of 47%.

*Note: this is after the SB is subtracted, it's still in the red, but 6bb/100 better than just folding every time.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:58 AM
Guthrie Guthrie is offline
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Default Re: Suited in small blind

I think the blind structure is the culprit. My loss rate (for all suited in the SB) is 50% higher in .25/.50 (.10/.25) than .50/1 (.25/.50). Admittedly this is over a very small sample size, and some of the loss is no doubt due to bad post-flop play, but I do think I will back off the junk suited in .25/.50 and pay very close attention in .50/1.
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:14 AM
EStreet20 EStreet20 is offline
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Default Re: Suited in small blind

In the blinds your focus statistically has to be "losing less" as I don't know anyone who is out of the red in the SB. In full ring I'll play any two suited in a limped pot in games with a 1/2 big blind structure but I'm more selective in 3/6 and 5/10 where the SB is less than half the big blind unless it's a 5 or 6 handed limped pot (rare online). However speculating in a multiway pot is better than simply giving up half a small bet.

Also, if you play Shorthanded, you may want to search for the post (I forget the title and poster so I can't do it myself) where the players discuss ALWAYS completeing from the small blind with any two cards in 10/20 6 max (no lie, even 72o) They make a great argument about the fact that in a shorthanded game it's always better to take a shot from the Small blind than to give up half a small bet by default. Of course I'm pretty sure they're all extremely solid postflop players.


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Matt
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:33 AM
aslowjoe aslowjoe is offline
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Default Re: Suited in small blind

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Also, if you play Shorthanded, you may want to search for the post (I forget the title and poster so I can't do it myself) where the players discuss ALWAYS completeing from the small blind with any two cards in 10/20 6 max (no lie, even 72o) They make a great argument about the fact that in a shorthanded game it's always better to take a shot from the Small blind than to give up half a small bet by default. Of course I'm pretty sure they're all extremely solid postflop players.


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This is incorrect. They were possibly refering to 15/30 where the sb is 2/3 I believe.
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